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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6501 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:56 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:The nhc as usual has done a heck of a job with this storm and with almost no help from the models in the beginning.


Outstanding track forecast. Intensity...well many of the models weren't even that much help 72hrs ago to be fair, and other than the HWRF the models kinda busted outside of the last 48hrs.

Anyway recon should be punching the NE eyewall very soon. Next 2 sets of obs going to be very telling about where Laura is and its likelyhood of becoming a 5.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6502 Postby DoctorMu » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:57 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Eye has been steady improving on WV imagery in the past few hours. Shades of orange now showing up.

https://i.imgur.com/DpDy6S8.gif



That looks like a turn to the eastern edge of the cone, possibly putting New Iberia, Abbeville, and Lafayette in play.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6503 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:57 pm

Recon may be timing it’s pass through perfectly with a mesovort. Seeing radar velocities of 171mph
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6504 Postby Highteeld » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:58 pm

Wherever this makes landfall will be forever changed

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6505 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:59 pm

Numbers still rising in higher levels of storm. Curious if recon will find increases in the lower levels

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6506 Postby Beef Stew » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:59 pm

Nawtamet wrote:Interesting to see the eye in a square-like shape.

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Where have I seen that before? Oh right...
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6507 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:59 pm

Nawtamet wrote:Interesting to see the eye in a square-like shape.

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Such phenomenon is caused by mesovortices rotating in the eyewall. See Michael hours before landfall. This is a sign of intensifying systems.

 https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1050028700123713536


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6508 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:00 pm

TheDreamTraveler wrote:
Raebie wrote:
al78 wrote:
It highlights how dreadful people are at risk assessment.


No kidding. Odds of surviving Covid are like 95% plus. Laura? Let's just say a lot less.


Didn't think I'd be seeing horrible covid takes but I'm not surprised I guess. A pandemic causing virus that's killed 170,000 people without the fall and winter months and it not having itself firmly established until later is waaay different than a powerful hurricane barreling towards the coast. How many people do you think die from hurricanes like Laura in the US? Michael thankfully hit a less populated area and killed 74 people but you think 170,000 people dying in 6 months just in the US is a better chance of survival than a powerful hurricane that most people can actually evacuate from? These types of takes shouldn't even be said during a storm like this imo but of course someone ends up saying it :\


Good but extremely sobering post. Just catastrosphic any way you look at this with both Laura and the COVID-19 pandemic, now over 180,000 COVID-19 related deaths now .
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6509 Postby Ken711 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:00 pm

NHC update:

6:00 PM CDT Wed Aug 26
Location: 28.2°N 92.9°W
Moving: NW at 15 mph
Min pressure: 947 mb
Max sustained: 145 mph
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6510 Postby ozonepete » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:00 pm

jdjaguar wrote:
Nawtamet wrote:Interesting to see the eye in a square-like shape.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200826/cf79c1fa2e986ccd30c89f18b5866c22.jpg

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Hexagonal.


It looks pretty square but it's clearly going into a hexagonal config with multiple eyewall vortices developing. That is another terrible sign that it is still intensifying.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6511 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:01 pm

KWT wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:The nhc as usual has done a heck of a job with this storm and with almost no help from the models in the beginning.


Outstanding track forecast. Intensity...well many of the models weren't even that much help 72hrs ago to be fair, and other than the HWRF the models kinda busted outside of the last 48hrs.

Anyway recon should be punching the NE eyewall very soon. Next 2 sets of obs going to be very telling about where Laura is and its likelyhood of becoming a 5.



They’re never that great on intensity. I think intensity is still one of the great mysteries. They admit themselves that it’s very hard to forecast and that’s fine with me. The fact that they do so well with track is amazing especially with this storm. They said all along she would enter very favorable conditions and she sure did.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6512 Postby jdjaguar » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:01 pm

TheDreamTraveler wrote:
Raebie wrote:
al78 wrote:
It highlights how dreadful people are at risk assessment.


No kidding. Odds of surviving Covid are like 95% plus. Laura? Let's just say a lot less.


Didn't think I'd be seeing horrible covid takes but I'm not surprised I guess. A pandemic causing virus that's killed 170,000 people without the fall and winter months and it not having itself firmly established until later is waaay different than a powerful hurricane barreling towards the coast. How many people do you think die from hurricanes like Laura in the US? Michael thankfully hit a less populated area and killed 74 people but you think 170,000 people dying in 6 months just in the US is a better chance of survival than a powerful hurricane that most people can actually evacuate from? These types of takes shouldn't even be said during a storm like this imo but of course someone ends up saying it :\

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6513 Postby Nimbus » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:02 pm

Highteeld wrote:Wherever this makes landfall will be forever changed

https://i.imgur.com/S2AXvf8.png


And after landfall the wind energy of a hurricane with a large eye can spread out quickly and that is also hard to forecast.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6514 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:02 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
Raebie wrote:
No kidding. Odds of surviving Covid are like 95% plus. Laura? Let's just say a lot less.


Didn't think I'd be seeing horrible covid takes but I'm not surprised I guess. A pandemic causing virus that's killed 170,000 people without the fall and winter months and it not having itself firmly established until later is waaay different than a powerful hurricane barreling towards the coast. How many people do you think die from hurricanes like Laura in the US? Michael thankfully hit a less populated area and killed 74 people but you think 170,000 people dying in 6 months just in the US is a better chance of survival than a powerful hurricane that most people can actually evacuate from? These types of takes shouldn't even be said during a storm like this imo but of course someone ends up saying it :\


Good but extremely sobering post. Just catastrosphic any way you look at this with both Laura and the COVID-19 pandemic, now over 180,000 COVID-19 related deaths now .


It’s a case of bad and worse to choose from. Awful options
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6515 Postby wkwally » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:02 pm

TheDreamTraveler wrote:
Raebie wrote:
al78 wrote:
It highlights how dreadful people are at risk assessment.


No kidding. Odds of surviving Covid are like 95% plus. Laura? Let's just say a lot less.


Didn't think I'd be seeing horrible covid takes but I'm not surprised I guess. A pandemic causing virus that's killed 170,000 people without the fall and winter months and it not having itself firmly established until later is waaay different than a powerful hurricane barreling towards the coast. How many people do you think die from hurricanes like Laura in the US? Michael thankfully hit a less populated area and killed 74 people but you think 170,000 people dying in 6 months just in the US is a better chance of survival than a powerful hurricane that most people can actually evacuate from? These types of takes shouldn't even be said during a storm like this imo but of course someone ends up saying it :\

I think the refrance is they would rather take the chance of COVID in a shelter that chance dying in the hurricane not that I would want either.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6516 Postby Blizzard96x » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:03 pm

Seems to me the eye is shrinking a bit on IR a bit compared to a few hrs ago.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6517 Postby Beef Stew » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:04 pm

133 SFMR unflagged :double:
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6518 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:04 pm

133 knots unflagged. On the cusp. Wow.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6519 Postby EquusStorm » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:04 pm

Covid is extraordinarily devastating for sure, but still, in places like Cameron and Holly Beach I think a shelter WITH proper precautions is still definitely safer than trying to brave a 20 foot storm surge; neither ideal, but the survival rate definitely speaks volumes given the incredible death tolls in this area from hurricanes like Audrey. In places far inland away from surge, definitely worth weighing options though.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6520 Postby aspen » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:04 pm

I’m betting this pass supports 130 kt/940 mbar.

EDIT: and didn’t even realize Kermit already found winds up to 140 kt
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