ATL: LAURA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6521 Postby Ed_2001 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:05 pm

As bad as this already will be one of those days another storm like this will inevitably hit Houston, Corpus Cristi or New Orleans head on. Hope we are only going to get better at predicting and preparing for these intense hurricanes with every passing year.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6522 Postby p1nheadlarry » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:05 pm

Beef Stew wrote:133 SFMR unflagged :double:


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6523 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:05 pm

Looks like we will soon have our 5th consecutive year of CAT5s within the next hour or two.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6524 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:05 pm

TheDreamTraveler wrote:
Raebie wrote:
al78 wrote:
It highlights how dreadful people are at risk assessment.


No kidding. Odds of surviving Covid are like 95% plus. Laura? Let's just say a lot less.


Didn't think I'd be seeing horrible covid takes but I'm not surprised I guess. A pandemic causing virus that's killed 170,000 people without the fall and winter months and it not having itself firmly established until later is waaay different than a powerful hurricane barreling towards the coast. How many people do you think die from hurricanes like Laura in the US? Michael thankfully hit a less populated area and killed 74 people but you think 170,000 people dying in 6 months just in the US is a better chance of survival than a powerful hurricane that most people can actually evacuate from? These types of takes shouldn't even be said during a storm like this imo but of course someone ends up saying it :\


I concur with Hammie. Covid-19 has case fatality ratio ~3% in the U.S., and of course it's even higher (maybe even 15%+) for older, sick, and obese people. Unless we're talking about hurricanes before the age of satellites like the Galveston 1900 storm, I don't think there's many hurricanes that killed >=1-3% of the people in the places they hit.

It all hinges on what the a) the hazards you will get from the storm are and b) your probability of exposure to Covid-19. For me and my family, we decided the risk of Covid-19 infection was worse than the risk of leaving our (not storm-surge impacted) location.

The assessment is complicated.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6525 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:06 pm

Good God she very well could do it....
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6526 Postby Beef Stew » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:06 pm

p1nheadlarry wrote:
Beef Stew wrote:133 SFMR unflagged :double:


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230100 2826N 09243W 6843 02904 9536 +140 //// 134116 127 133 055 01
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6527 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:06 pm

Looks like 130kts based on that NE eyewall pass, 133kts was estimated at surface, so you could make a call at 135kts IF the dropsonde also comes out with something similar but for now 130kts looks reasonable.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6528 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:07 pm

230100 2826N 09243W 6843 02904 9536 +140 //// 134116 127 133 055 01
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6529 Postby Highteeld » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:07 pm

Air force recon taking off now
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6530 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:07 pm

Very close to 135kts.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6531 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:08 pm

Very possible that dropsonde drop will support cat 5. Additional AF plane otw.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6532 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:08 pm

With just that data, 130 kt is the floor right now.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6533 Postby Blizzard96x » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:09 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6534 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:10 pm

Ken711 wrote:NHC update:

6:00 PM CDT Wed Aug 26
Location: 28.2°N 92.9°W
Moving: NW at 15 mph
Min pressure: 947 mb
Max sustained: 145 mph


Probably will be adjusted lower, kermit not in eye yet reporting 948.7.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6535 Postby Hammy » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:10 pm

FLpanhandle91 wrote:230100 2826N 09243W 6843 02904 9536 +140 //// 134116 127 133 055 01


Isn't that flagged because of the rain rate?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6536 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:10 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Very close to 135kts.


It is, much depends on what the dropsonde comes up with I suspect. Definitely enough for 130kts now, could make an argument for 135kts IF dropsonde comes in at a similar level to the surface estimate.

2nd plane could well also find enough to tip the balance in the next hour or two.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6537 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:10 pm

On the IR eye appears to have contracted and a due N wobble...
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6538 Postby AubreyStorm » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:11 pm

FLpanhandle91 wrote:133 knots unflagged. On the cusp. Wow.


What does "unflagged" mean?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6539 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:11 pm

Hammy wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:230100 2826N 09243W 6843 02904 9536 +140 //// 134116 127 133 055 01


Isn't that flagged because of the rain rate?

But SFMR is up to 133kts so it's believable.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6540 Postby Hammy » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:12 pm

AubreyStorm wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:133 knots unflagged. On the cusp. Wow.


What does "unflagged" mean?


It means the data isn't questionable--they'll flag things that might be due to the rain rate, or shoaling (too much sea foam), or things where the data might be bad for other reasons that I don't recall at the moment.
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