2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1621 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:47 am

TheStormExpert wrote:Might be a good time to post this humorous yet true graph. :lol:

https://i.ibb.co/RjqF8cP/18-F6-BBEA-392-F-4-E86-9-A1-B-12-D290606-AFB.jpg


Didn't the ECMWF Ensembles have Laura headed towards Houston though? lol
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1622 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:49 am

Just speculating here but In general I expect either Central America or recurves the next 2-3 weeks. Deep trof in long range gfs may have some merit is likely enhanced by recurving typhoon. We shall see how all this places out
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1623 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:37 am

:uarrow: We may see more than one recurving Typhoon which could cause some perturbations in the jet stream over North America and Atlantic downstream. There is a second Typhoon which global models are starting to latch onto. See WPAC thread for models: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=120758&start=280
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1624 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:43 am

gatorcane wrote::uarrow: We may see more than one recurving Typhoon which could cause some perturbations in the jet stream over North America and Atlantic downstream. There is a second Typhoon which global models are starting to latch onto. See WPAC thread for models: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=120758&start=280


Hi Gatorcane, I think there's a good chance the typhoon is feeding back on the background pattern, amplifying the meridional nature of the jet which leads to that trough amplified. Looks like two typhoons playing a role with the pattern
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1625 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:12 am

Para recurves last min before FL.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1626 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:23 am

SFLcane wrote:Para recurves last min before FL.

https://i.imgur.com/TUoJgSs.gif

Go figure! One of these days I’m going to loose count of how many near hits we’ve almost had in S.FL. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1627 Postby EquusStorm » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:30 am

Ok but recurving last minute before Florida is just another way of saying trashes the Bahamas hard only a year after Dorian, so hopefully a little further off the coast than that
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1628 Postby toad strangler » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:31 am

EquusStorm wrote:Ok but recurving last minute before Florida is just another way of saying trashes the Bahamas hard only a year after Dorian, so hopefully a little further off the coast than that


It's Alice in Wonderland range.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1629 Postby zhukm29 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:38 am

Cursed GIF:

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1630 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:49 am

Welcome to December per GFS typhoon enhanced .. :D :roll:

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1631 Postby toad strangler » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 am

SFLcane wrote:Welcome to December per GFS typhoon enhanced .. :D :roll:

https://i.imgur.com/vQPvA05.png


That will shut the whole basin down. See you all in 2021
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1632 Postby ronjon » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:01 pm

toad strangler wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Welcome to December per GFS typhoon enhanced .. :D :roll:

https://i.imgur.com/vQPvA05.png


That will shut the whole basin down. See you all in 2021
:sun:



LOL - GFS is comical at long ranges. GFS para is saying..what trough?
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1633 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:03 pm

toad strangler wrote:
EquusStorm wrote:Ok but recurving last minute before Florida is just another way of saying trashes the Bahamas hard only a year after Dorian, so hopefully a little further off the coast than that


It's Alice in Wonderland range.

For all we know this could end up being yet another Gulf hurricane as that seems to be the hotspot this season.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1634 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:04 pm

SFLcane wrote:Welcome to December per GFS typhoon enhanced .. :D :roll:

https://i.imgur.com/vQPvA05.png

Of course when December actually comes a trough like this will be nowhere in sight to bring Florida some colder weather!
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1635 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:06 pm

That’s almost El Niño-esque LMFAO
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Model Runs Cheat Sheet:
GFS (5:30 AM/PM, 11:30 AM/PM)
HWRF, GFDL, UKMET, NAVGEM (6:30-8:00 AM/PM, 12:30-2:00 AM/PM)
ECMWF (1:45 AM/PM)

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1636 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:16 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:That’s almost El Niño-esque LMFAO


No, El Nino doesn't cause troughs. 2010 was a huge La Nina and had those troughs.

60's into northern FL. on the latest GFS. :ggreen:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1637 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:33 pm

SFLcane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:That’s almost El Niño-esque LMFAO


No, El Nino doesn't cause troughs. 2010 was a huge La Nina and had those troughs.

60's into northern FL. on the latest GFS. :ggreen:

True, but I'm so used to those kinds of troughs happening during El Nino years.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1638 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:01 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:That’s almost El Niño-esque LMFAO


No, El Nino doesn't cause troughs. 2010 was a huge La Nina and had those troughs.

60's into northern FL. on the latest GFS. :ggreen:

True, but I'm so used to those kinds of troughs happening during El Nino years.


Regardless it's going to be an amplified pattern.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1639 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:21 pm

SFLcane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:That’s almost El Niño-esque LMFAO


No, El Nino doesn't cause troughs. 2010 was a huge La Nina and had those troughs.

60's into northern FL. on the latest GFS. :ggreen:


60's in Florida in early-September?

Not happening. Trough is overdone.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1640 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:25 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:That’s almost El Niño-esque LMFAO


No, El Nino doesn't cause troughs. 2010 was a huge La Nina and had those troughs.

60's into northern FL. on the latest GFS. :ggreen:


60's in Florida in early-September?

Not happening. Trough is overdone.


Those 60s are in the far NW Panhandle, so possible. 50s along the northern gulf coast. I think the GFS is likely too deep on this trough (280+ hours is likely not going to verify) but we can take it as a sign fall is around the corner:

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