Tropical Wave has emerged from West Africa (Is Invest 95L)

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#161 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:56 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Once again the 18z GFS seems to have stopped rolling in on Tropical Tidbits near day 10. Anyone else having this problem again?


Yep, stuck at 222 hours.

Same, is it a Tropical Tidbits thing or do other sites fully load the run?
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#162 Postby Spacecoast » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:56 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Once again the 18z GFS seems to have stopped rolling in on Tropical Tidbits near day 10. Anyone else having this problem again?

Try Pivot weather:
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=850hvv&rh=2020082912&fh=loop&r=watl&dpdt=&mc=
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#163 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:57 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Once again the 18z GFS seems to have stopped rolling in on Tropical Tidbits near day 10. Anyone else having this problem again?


Same here, but the storm looks to be recurving.

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#164 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:59 pm

You can get the GFS model plots directly from NCEP’s site:

https://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/model-guidanc ... C&ps=area#
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#165 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:04 pm

gatorcane wrote:You can get the GFS model plots directly from NCEP’s site:

https://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/model-guidanc ... C&ps=area#

Thanks! Looks like a quick recurve east of The Bahamas and U.S., likely a threat to Bermuda.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#166 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:05 pm

Takeaways I’m getting from these model runs:
1. High intensity potential
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#167 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:19 pm

A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#168 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:19 pm

Up to 20/80. They might as well give this an invest tag.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#169 Postby Spacecoast » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:46 pm

18z GEFS Gen probability = 64% Fourteen members meet TS/TD criteria, down 1 (12z was fifteen members)

Details forHours 0-144
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#170 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:47 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
gatorcane wrote:You can get the GFS model plots directly from NCEP’s site:

https://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/model-guidanc ... C&ps=area#

Thanks! Looks like a quick recurve east of The Bahamas and U.S., likely a threat to Bermuda.


Not the GFS ensembles: :eek:

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#171 Postby USTropics » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:49 pm

It's the same AEW for this thread, GFS decides Rene will last the entire run which has implications on track and ridging (and also would be a record for longest lived system in the Atlantic if it were to actually materialize).

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Lots of variables which creates chaos run to run. Ensembles as always offer the best guidance.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#172 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:49 pm

Again very impressive wave and far south.

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#173 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:51 pm

cycloneye wrote:
A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


I’m rooting for this wave to develop on the African coast...
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#174 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:56 pm

gatorcane wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
gatorcane wrote:You can get the GFS model plots directly from NCEP’s site:

https://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/model-guidanc ... C&ps=area#

Thanks! Looks like a quick recurve east of The Bahamas and U.S., likely a threat to Bermuda.


Not the GFS ensembles: :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/FKzRLZXJ/gfs-ememb-lowlocs-eatl-fh72-234.gif


Very similar GFS/P

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#175 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:10 pm

USTropics wrote:It's the same AEW for this thread, GFS decides Rene will last the entire run which has implications on track and ridging (and also would be a record for longest lived system in the Atlantic if it were to actually materialize).

https://i.ibb.co/KqpKRv8/GFS-Energy-Tropical-Atlantic-850-h-Pa-Rel-Vorticity.gif

Lots of variables which creates chaos run to run. Ensembles as always offer the best guidance.

That’s a much more straightforward run than last time: the second system is barely there, and most of 95L becomes one big long-tracking ACE monster with a typical Cape Verde path similar to Jose.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#176 Postby DestinHurricane » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:24 pm

18Z operational GFS has an unlikely interaction with Rene that brings future Sally or Teddy OTS. The ensembles are in good agreement with a lowrider towards the caribbean. I would lean towards ensembles here. And GEFS Para as well as EPS show the same track towards the caribbean. Ensembles are in good consensus about the future track. The biggest variable is interaction with Rene and how big a weakness Rene and Paulette leave.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#177 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:32 pm

gatorcane wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
gatorcane wrote:You can get the GFS model plots directly from NCEP’s site:

https://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/model-guidanc ... C&ps=area#

Thanks! Looks like a quick recurve east of The Bahamas and U.S., likely a threat to Bermuda.


Not the GFS ensembles: :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/FKzRLZXJ/gfs-ememb-lowlocs-eatl-fh72-234.gif

Happy Hour GFS still lives up to its name! :lol:
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#178 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:40 pm

Long range GFS in the MDR always underestimate the ridge. I can’t remember one single scenario that it didn’t.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#179 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:48 pm

The GFS parallel has nothing but a trough heading west through hour 150 while another area heads NW. Not used to seeing the parallel the least bullish of the models. Saved animation below:

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#180 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:35 pm

This wave future 95L will be the ultimate test to see if it can become a big ACE producer and a major hurricane as Paulette and Rene aren’t looking too great tonight. So far the ACE this season to date with the 17/5/1 are less than that of which Dorian alone produced last season if that puts things into perspective.
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