ATL: SALLY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#541 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:07 am

Glad it's not just me then.

 https://twitter.com/pppapin/status/1304660082861506561




I do not mean to sound like I'm unnecessarily causing hype, but out of all the Katrina comparisons today, this sudden SW jog over SFL is the only thing that raises the Katrina red flag for me.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#542 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:08 am

48mph at 350 feet..

safe to say it a TS.

too bad we have no real surface obs.. which is really dumb.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#543 Postby tiger_deF » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:09 am

Appears to be materializing an eastern flank to the llc/mlc out of thin air
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#544 Postby TallahasseeMan » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:09 am

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Looks like it’s getting pulled south deeper into Biscayne bay.


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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#545 Postby us89 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:10 am

Maybe this is just a matter of surface winds catching up to the upper-level winds and pressure falls...

I would be shocked if this makes it all the way through the Miami metro area without being upgraded.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#547 Postby FireRat » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:10 am

Aric Dunn wrote:48mph at 350 feet..

safe to say it a TS.

too bad we have no real surface obs.. which is really dumb.


of course, Rats! :lol:
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#548 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:12 am

This should be enough proof that the winds in that north quad are TS..

this ob is outside the heaviest radar returns.

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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#549 Postby FireRat » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:12 am

imagine if 19 gets upgraded at 5 AM once over land, could that even be possible? :lol:

This evolved so fast it was hard to catch up, makes one wonder if the NHC could use the radar velocities and that 350 ft observation alone for an upgrade.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#550 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:14 am

There are many instances of storms being upgraded in S FL after landfalling.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#551 Postby us89 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:15 am

FireRat wrote:imagine if 19 gets upgraded at 5 AM once over land, could that even be possible? :lol:


Julia did that in 2016, also over the Florida coast...just a few hundred miles further north.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#552 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:16 am

in my opinion, this is currently sally.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#553 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:17 am

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:in my opinion, this is currently sally.


Agreed - that would be the NHC's call though and would come from a Tropical Cyclone Update.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#554 Postby ClarCari » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:20 am

FireRat wrote:imagine if 19 gets upgraded at 5 AM once over land, could that even be possible? :lol:

This evolved so fast it was hard to catch up, makes one wonder if the NHC could use the radar velocities and that 350 ft observation alone for an upgrade.


Julia 2016 was upgraded over Florida! And Fay 2008 strengthened over Florida and the NHC reflected that.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#555 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:20 am

CrazyC83 wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:in my opinion, this is currently sally.


Agreed - that would be the NHC's call though and would come from a Tropical Cyclone Update.



TS winds expanding out from the core into that curved band now.

definitely a TS..

50mph on radar at 300 feet
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#556 Postby us89 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:21 am

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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#557 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:23 am

Aric Dunn wrote:This should be enough proof that the winds in that north quad are TS..

this ob is outside the heaviest radar returns.

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/plot_wind_pres.php?station=fwyf1&uom=E&time_diff=-4&time_label=EDT


Pressure much lower than estimated, 40 mph wind gusts and a pressure of 1005 mb, its pressure is probably around 1003-1004mb.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#558 Postby tiger_deF » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:24 am

Any chance we get an intermediate upgrade?
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#559 Postby FireRat » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:27 am

So it can happen, an upgrade over land! 5 AM might be interesting unless the NHC makes a quick update. The data does support a TS landfall is happening now. Of course it looks like Biscayne National Park is gonna get the first hit, and very little surface obs there if any, but soon enough the Southern tip of FL will get the TS winds. This is Sally being birthed right now
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#560 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:28 am

tiger_deF wrote:Any chance we get an intermediate upgrade?


It's very possible - that would come from a Tropical Cyclone Update.
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