ATL: SALLY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3121 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:36 pm

Since the SFMR is unreliable in shallow water and there hasn't been obvious bad data (like with Isaias), I'd have to go with that data and put the intensity at 90 kt.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3123 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:36 pm

I’d go 100mph at 1am even though there’s enough evidence for 105mph
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3124 Postby lovingseason2013 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:37 pm

Uptownmeow wrote:I have family riding it out at a condo on Pensacola beach. . We’re trying to stay calm bc there’s not much they can do at this point but should I be worried like crazy you think ?


Those condos can take a beating and come out okay. They should be just fine, it will not be a fun night for them, but they will survive.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3125 Postby us89 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:37 pm

SFMR still a bit lower than would be expected from FL, but shallower waters probably suggest that is less reliable of an indicator.

I expect an upgrade in the position update at 1 AM.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3126 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:41 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Since the SFMR is unreliable in shallow water and there hasn't been obvious bad data (like with Isaias), I'd have to go with that data and put the intensity at 90 kt.


Do you consider 100' deep water shallow?
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3127 Postby PandaCitrus » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:42 pm

It's probably a good idea to go into the interior hallway or the stairwells. You really don't want to be in your condo unit if the windows blow out. Not a safe situation but structurally the building will be fine.

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Uptownmeow wrote:I have family riding it out at a condo on Pensacola beach. . We’re trying to stay calm bc there’s not much they can do at this point but should I be worried like crazy you think ?


Those condos can take a beating and come out okay. They should be just fine, it will not be a fun night for them, but they will survive.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3128 Postby NotoSans » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:43 pm

A blend of flight-level and SFMR winds yield an initial intensity of 85kt.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3129 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:43 pm

NDG wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Since the SFMR is unreliable in shallow water and there hasn't been obvious bad data (like with Isaias), I'd have to go with that data and put the intensity at 90 kt.


Do you consider 100' deep water shallow?


That's very shallow for ocean/sea water. For comparison, the open Atlantic is more than 10,000 feet deep - in spots up to 30,000 feet deep.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3130 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:44 pm

Crazy that Pensacola already has had near 15" of rain already and yet has to go through the eyewall's massive rain, the flooding is going to be crazy in all that area.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3131 Postby ColdMiser123 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:44 pm

Seeing a lot of radar bin velocities of ~110 KT, which at ~1500 meters supports 90 KT at the surface, completely consistent with the FL wind recon just found in the eastern eyewall.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3132 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:45 pm

Doppler velocities just blew up. 120 to 130 mph below the level recon is flying..

This should be upgraded
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3133 Postby Uptownmeow » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:45 pm

lovingseason2013 wrote:
Uptownmeow wrote:I have family riding it out at a condo on Pensacola beach. . We’re trying to stay calm bc there’s not much they can do at this point but should I be worried like crazy you think ?


Those condos can take a beating and come out okay. They should be just fine, it will not be a fun night for them, but they will survive.


That’s what I said. They’ll survive but just may have the ever living sally scared out of them
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3134 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:45 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
NDG wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Since the SFMR is unreliable in shallow water and there hasn't been obvious bad data (like with Isaias), I'd have to go with that data and put the intensity at 90 kt.


Do you consider 100' deep water shallow?


That's very shallow for ocean/sea water. For comparison, the open Atlantic is more than 10,000 feet deep - in spots up to 30,000 feet deep.


I would think that SFMR would do well in 100' deep water vs 30-50' closer to the coast.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3135 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:45 pm

The eyewall is really tightening on approach to landfall. Wow. She is really strenghtening right now. What a terrible night for everyone out in the panhandle. My prayers for them tonight.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3136 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:45 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Doppler velocities just blew up. 120 to 130 mph below the level recon is flying..

This should be upgraded


That would support an intensity of 90-95 kt.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3137 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:46 pm

Just steady strengthening, needs to stop.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3138 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:46 pm

NDG wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Since the SFMR is unreliable in shallow water and there hasn't been obvious bad data (like with Isaias), I'd have to go with that data and put the intensity at 90 kt.


Do you consider 100' deep water shallow?


I would, 60 miles off Panama City is the 100 fathom curve, 600 feet.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3139 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:47 pm

Anyone heard anything more from Aric recently who is out there in the storm?
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#3140 Postby wx98 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:48 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Doppler velocities just blew up. 120 to 130 mph below the level recon is flying..

This should be upgraded

The plane needs to fly through the NE side. They went due E that time.
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