ATL: TEDDY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#461 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:43 am

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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#462 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:44 am

Jeez that NE quadrant — 60 mm/hr rain rate, 125 kt FL, 95 kt SFMR.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#463 Postby us89 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:47 am

SFMR seems a little low for a FL wind that high.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#464 Postby Kazmit » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:47 am

Looks like it's a borderline cat 4.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#465 Postby NotoSans » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:48 am

Eye sonde is 952mb/9kt which supports central pressure of 951mb. Looks more like a WPAC wind-pressure relationship.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#466 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:49 am

Can't wait for the eye to fully clear out.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#467 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:54 am

Recon showing a pretty large windfield along with a fairly large eye. It's probably not surprising that 950mb is only producing 105kt.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#468 Postby NotoSans » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:01 am

Note SATCON is 111kt/950mb and AMSU is 103kt/952mb so another win for remote sensing techniques.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#469 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:03 am

Eyewall dropsonde found surface winds of 113/114 kt. Is this enough for a Cat 4 upgrade, or will the NHC wait to see what the second NOAA plane pass or first AF pass reveals?
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#470 Postby Kazmit » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:04 am

Large hurricane-force wind field.

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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#471 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:05 am

aspen wrote:Eyewall dropsonde found surface winds of 113/114 kt. Is this enough for a Cat 4 upgrade, or will the NHC wait to see what the second NOAA plane pass or first AF pass reveals?

If not now, then probably soon. Given the steady rate of improvement I assume the winds are in the process of catching up to the pressure
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#472 Postby CyclonicFury » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:06 am

aspen wrote:Eyewall dropsonde found surface winds of 113/114 kt. Is this enough for a Cat 4 upgrade, or will the NHC wait to see what the second NOAA plane pass or first AF pass reveals?

Probably not. Dropsondes are more representative of gusts than sustained winds.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#473 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:06 am

Also dropsondes may not necessarily reach the absolute bottom winds and may show it just aloft.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#474 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:09 am

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Probably seeing our next convective burst in the N eyewall.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#475 Postby NotoSans » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:12 am

Surface splash from dropsonde is more representative of gusts but using the lowest 150m average yields a surface wind estimate of ~104kt.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#476 Postby tiger_deF » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:12 am

That's some wind radius, plane has been going NE from the eye for 30 minutes and still picking up hurricane force flight level winds
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#477 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:20 am

AF plane decends to make it's first pass.
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#478 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:40 am

Hopefully there is not a boat out there but the AF plane is doing circles.

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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#479 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:42 am

The thing I’m seeing is that this is still having some trouble mixing out dry air on the eastern side, of it does this could become a high end cat 4 maybe even a 5 if that happens but right now I see the peak at 140mph
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Re: ATL: TEDDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#480 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:47 am

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