2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3281 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:52 am

12z GFS going ham with that potential Western Caribbean storm :eek: Given what we have seen down there over the last couple weeks... I think there is a good chance that could happen *IF* a storm manages to actually form down there.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3282 Postby SFLcane » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:52 am

toad strangler wrote:It's basically sitting still for 2 days. I don't buy that part of this run so far.


Sure... no steering until next trof comes picks it up. We’re have I seen this before?
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3283 Postby SconnieCane » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:53 am

toad strangler wrote:It's basically sitting still for 2 days. I don't buy that part of this run so far.


Big ridge over top of it so question is, does it just hang out there or plow west into CA/Mexico? Lucky for Florida this wasn't the setup over the MDR in September.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3284 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:53 am

...uh, I don’t like the look of that...
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3285 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:53 am

toad strangler wrote:It's basically sitting still for 2 days. I don't buy that part of this run so far.


Wilma in 2005 did just that, meandered in the western Caribbean for a few days and bombed to record levels, don't completely discount such a possibility as that would be folly
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3286 Postby chris_fit » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:55 am

Fantasy Range - Rounding the W tip of Cuba and turning towards W coast of FL as a mid Cat 3

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3287 Postby SFLcane » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:55 am

chris_fit wrote:Fantasy Range - Rounding the W tip of Cuba and turning towards W coast of FL as a mid Cat 3

https://i.imgur.com/LeK4SEe.png


Here comes the kicker...
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3288 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:57 am

chris_fit wrote:Fantasy Range - Rounding the W tip of Cuba and turning towards W coast of FL as a mid Cat 3

https://i.imgur.com/LeK4SEe.png

Misses Cuba... Watch out
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#3289 Postby ronjon » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:01 pm

12z GFS...1921 revisited for Tampa Bay.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3290 Postby chris_fit » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:01 pm

Right over my house, Tampa Bay area - As a Cat 1 with sub 960 pressure.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3291 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:01 pm

This is gonna hurt...

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3292 Postby SFLcane » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:03 pm

Gfs is sure showing potential for this storm down into the Caribbean. If this indeed does form FL should watch closely.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3293 Postby chris_fit » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:05 pm

12z GFS Run.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3294 Postby toad strangler » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:06 pm

Whoa baby Tampa hold on to your ROOFS .... if you believe 12z 300 hour plus Alice in Wonderland
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3295 Postby cp79 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:07 pm

toad strangler wrote:Whoa baby Tampa hold on to your ROOFS .... if you believe 12z 300 hour plus Alice in Wonderland


Yeah it’s actually the same exact track and scenario when they simulated Hurricane Phoenix...a cat 5 simulation over Tampa Bay.

The good news is they’re showing this track 12 days out. These tracks always change so better to show it over Tampa now than in two weeks when there’s a 99% chance it will be something completely opposite. But I do think that something will get cooking in the Caribbean next week.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3296 Postby aspen » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:10 pm

On top of the WCar system, there’s potential for 1-2 other storms as well. The GFS-Para, CMC, and ICON have been showing a subtropical-origin TC developing in the central Atlantic between 120-180 hours out, the 12z ICON develops 93L north of the GAs after 6 days, and the CMC has attempted to get 93L north of the GAs (although in the 12z run it goes south into the WCar and develops alongside the other WCar system).
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3297 Postby chris_fit » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:10 pm

toad strangler wrote:Whoa baby Tampa hold on to your ROOFS .... if you believe 12z 300 hour plus Alice in Wonderland


Yup, like I said before, this is exactly where you want to be this far out. It is very very very very (pretty much impossible) that this solution will pan out.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3298 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:16 pm

chris_fit wrote:
toad strangler wrote:Whoa baby Tampa hold on to your ROOFS .... if you believe 12z 300 hour plus Alice in Wonderland


Yup, like I said before, this is exactly where you want to be this far out. It is very very very very (pretty much impossible) that this solution will pan out.

In what way is it impossible? It’s a reasonable outcome given the pattern. Just because there is a large range of possible outcomes doesn’t make any one of them impossible.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3299 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:28 pm

If it was "impossible", then it wouldn't be considered a model run lol..
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3300 Postby toad strangler » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:30 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:If it was "impossible", then it wouldn't be considered a model run lol..


I wouldn't call it impossible but rather highly unlikely given how far out this is. We will see huge shifts in track if not even poofage of the storm in the coming days.
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