2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3581 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:03 pm

The GEFS will be key to determining if this run of the GFS was a fluke or a real trend.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3582 Postby toad strangler » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:08 pm

CMC into CA
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3583 Postby LarryWx » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:09 pm

CourierPR wrote:Again, folks are all agog looking at one model run and treating it as THE definitive run.


Who is treating the 12Z GFS as THE definitive run? Most of the deterministic model runs are discussed in this thread as that is why this thread exists.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3584 Postby aspen » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:17 pm

toad strangler wrote:CMC into CA

The CMC has a different formation scenario than the GFS. Instead of the gyre concentrating into a TC, it catches the remnant vorticity of 93L, rotates it into the Caribbean, and develops there. That means this could develop anywhere from just south of Jamaica to just off of the Yucatán.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3585 Postby SFLcane » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:18 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:The GEFS will be key to determining if this run of the GFS was a fluke or a real trend.


Quite the signal on the 12z GEFS.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3586 Postby boca » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:30 pm

SFLcane wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:The GEFS will be key to determining if this run of the GFS was a fluke or a real trend.


Quite the signal on the 12z GEFS.


Quite a strong signal but for 3 or 4 runs in a row the GFS has this going east of Florida in the Bahamas based on the trough pulling this up I’m starting to feel a little better that this might pass us by like all the other storms have done this year so far.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3587 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:31 pm

SFLcane wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:The GEFS will be key to determining if this run of the GFS was a fluke or a real trend.


Quite the signal on the 12z GEFS.

Yep, I see that. It'll be interesting to see what the operational 18z run shows now.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3588 Postby aspen » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:35 pm

Today does not seem to be a good day for the models. Both the GFS-Para are having issues; the 06z GFS-Para failed to load beyond 72hrs, and the 12z ICON only loaded halfway.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3589 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:38 pm

boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:The GEFS will be key to determining if this run of the GFS was a fluke or a real trend.


Quite the signal on the 12z GEFS.


Quite a strong signal but for 3 or 4 runs in a row the GFS has this going east of Florida in the Bahamas based on the trough pulling this up I’m starting to feel a little better that this might pass us by like all the other storms have done this year so far.

Yikes.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3590 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:38 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Honestly you’re nuts if you believe those absurd Cat.5 intensities the GFS shows with systems all the time. I’ll never forget the sub-900mb Irma it was forecasting to slam into SE Florida for several runs. Fortunately that wasn’t the case.

I do remember that. During that year the gfs was way over the top with intense storms but I think upgrades since then have tapered that back quite a bit. 893mb was over the top, but Irma easily could have been a sub 915mb storm if it missed Cuba and lanfalled in SFL
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3591 Postby SFLcane » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:39 pm

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3592 Postby boca » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:45 pm



That map looks like a 2 year old drew all over that omg.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3593 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:49 pm

boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:The GEFS will be key to determining if this run of the GFS was a fluke or a real trend.


Quite the signal on the 12z GEFS.


Quite a strong signal but for 3 or 4 runs in a row the GFS has this going east of Florida in the Bahamas based on the trough pulling this up I’m starting to feel a little better that this might pass us by like all the other storms have done this year so far.

I'd feel better if the signal wasn't still 10 days out. Wait until its in the 3-5 day range before sounding the all clear.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3594 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:53 pm

Still two camps at day 12.

Would be nice if the Euro would get itself together for once this season and show development. :roll:

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3595 Postby toad strangler » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:54 pm



Woooo baby can you imagine a member like that one into the Tampa area verifying? :eek:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3596 Postby toad strangler » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:55 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Quite the signal on the 12z GEFS.


Quite a strong signal but for 3 or 4 runs in a row the GFS has this going east of Florida in the Bahamas based on the trough pulling this up I’m starting to feel a little better that this might pass us by like all the other storms have done this year so far.

I'd feel better if the signal wasn't still 10 days out. Wait until its in the 3-5 day range before sounding the all clear.


3-5 days out to sound an all clear? :roll: Come on broski ....
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3597 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:55 pm

toad strangler wrote:


Woooo baby can you imagine a member like that one into the Tampa area verifying? :eek:

That's Ft. Myers. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3598 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:56 pm

toad strangler wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
boca wrote:
Quite a strong signal but for 3 or 4 runs in a row the GFS has this going east of Florida in the Bahamas based on the trough pulling this up I’m starting to feel a little better that this might pass us by like all the other storms have done this year so far.

I'd feel better if the signal wasn't still 10 days out. Wait until its in the 3-5 day range before sounding the all clear.


3-5 days out to sound an all clear? :roll: Come on broski ....

So what, you want us to wait until its a day out to sound the all clear!? Sometimes I don't get you.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3599 Postby toad strangler » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:57 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:I'd feel better if the signal wasn't still 10 days out. Wait until its in the 3-5 day range before sounding the all clear.


3-5 days out to sound an all clear? :roll: Come on broski ....

So what, you want us to wait until its a day out to sound the all clear!? Sometimes I don't get you.


haha I don't get you ALL the time. 3-5 days is crazy talk.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#3600 Postby aspen » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:57 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Quite the signal on the 12z GEFS.


Quite a strong signal but for 3 or 4 runs in a row the GFS has this going east of Florida in the Bahamas based on the trough pulling this up I’m starting to feel a little better that this might pass us by like all the other storms have done this year so far.

I'd feel better if the signal wasn't still 10 days out. Wait until its in the 3-5 day range before sounding the all clear.

The precursor gyre is now only 5 days out. Depending on how quickly it coalesces, we should have a named TC between the 20th and 23rd.
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