Potential monster storms that never panned out

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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#21 Postby Ed_2001 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:22 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
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Weather Dude wrote:Yeah I would say Mangkhut doesn't qualify as it was a 180mph Cat 5 lol. But I see what you mean


Yeah my point was it was already an monster but could have been even more “monstrous”. But I guess in the same fashion as Irma and Dorian. Already very bad but could have been much worse.

I agree with you. No question a mid range Cat4 is formidable, but but any storm with a 6 mile wide eye (later contracted to something like 2 or 3), in the western Caribbean, in October, is going to raise some eyebrows. If mid level shear hadn’t jumped to 30kt unexpectedly, there would have been nothing to stop it.


Did you quote the wrong guy by any chance? :lol:
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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#22 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:53 pm

Ed_2001 wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:
Ed_2001 wrote:
Yeah my point was it was already an monster but could have been even more “monstrous”. But I guess in the same fashion as Irma and Dorian. Already very bad but could have been much worse.

I agree with you. No question a mid range Cat4 is formidable, but but any storm with a 6 mile wide eye (later contracted to something like 2 or 3), in the western Caribbean, in October, is going to raise some eyebrows. If mid level shear hadn’t jumped to 30kt unexpectedly, there would have been nothing to stop it.


Did you quote the wrong guy by any chance? :lol:

Oof, no I didn’t but I thought you were talking about Delta.
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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#23 Postby DestinHurricane » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:15 pm

While still a major landfall and quite bad, I would have to say Dennis. Had it been a little larger it would have been as bad as opal.
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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#24 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:59 pm

Hurricane Isidore in 2002 was forecasted to hit the New Orleans areas a Category 4 hurricane. It stalled over Yucatan Peninsula before heading northwards towards the Gulf Coast as a large tropical storm.

Think about if Isidore did hit the New Orleans area as a Category 4 hurricane. :eek: :double: :( :cry:
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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#25 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:32 am

shiny-pebble wrote:I don't think Delta qualifies. None of the professionals or models expected it to be Wilma 2.0, just the people on this forum and Twitter. I think the NHC had a peak intensity of 150 or so and it peaked at 145. Maybe in the Gulf in didn't quite reach expectations but it didn't bust.

And, I would say it qualifies as a monster

One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall
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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#26 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:40 am

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shiny-pebble wrote:I don't think Delta qualifies. None of the professionals or models expected it to be Wilma 2.0, just the people on this forum and Twitter. I think the NHC had a peak intensity of 150 or so and it peaked at 145. Maybe in the Gulf in didn't quite reach expectations but it didn't bust.

And, I would say it qualifies as a monster

One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall

Are you talking about the NAM 3KM?
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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#27 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:42 am

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shiny-pebble wrote:I don't think Delta qualifies. None of the professionals or models expected it to be Wilma 2.0, just the people on this forum and Twitter. I think the NHC had a peak intensity of 150 or so and it peaked at 145. Maybe in the Gulf in didn't quite reach expectations but it didn't bust.

And, I would say it qualifies as a monster

One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall

Are you talking about the NAM 3KM?

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Re: RE: Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#28 Postby shiny-pebble » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:42 am

Iceresistance wrote:
shiny-pebble wrote:I don't think Delta qualifies. None of the professionals or models expected it to be Wilma 2.0, just the people on this forum and Twitter. I think the NHC had a peak intensity of 150 or so and it peaked at 145. Maybe in the Gulf in didn't quite reach expectations but it didn't bust.

And, I would say it qualifies as a monster

One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall
Which model. Because not even the aggressive HMON and HWRF had a storm anywhere near that intense.
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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#29 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:42 am

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shiny-pebble wrote:I don't think Delta qualifies. None of the professionals or models expected it to be Wilma 2.0, just the people on this forum and Twitter. I think the NHC had a peak intensity of 150 or so and it peaked at 145. Maybe in the Gulf in didn't quite reach expectations but it didn't bust.

And, I would say it qualifies as a monster

One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall

Are you talking about the NAM 3KM?

Even though the NAM model was crazy with Laura.
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Re: RE: Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#30 Postby shiny-pebble » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:45 am

Iceresistance wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall

Are you talking about the NAM 3KM?

COT2 at Mexico
If that model had a 220 MPH storm when no other model had that it is clearly not reliable and should be taken with a grain of salt

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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#31 Postby kevin » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:53 am

Iceresistance wrote:
shiny-pebble wrote:I don't think Delta qualifies. None of the professionals or models expected it to be Wilma 2.0, just the people on this forum and Twitter. I think the NHC had a peak intensity of 150 or so and it peaked at 145. Maybe in the Gulf in didn't quite reach expectations but it didn't bust.

And, I would say it qualifies as a monster

One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall


I think this is the model you're referring to?

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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#32 Postby Ubuntwo » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:58 am

kevin wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
shiny-pebble wrote:I don't think Delta qualifies. None of the professionals or models expected it to be Wilma 2.0, just the people on this forum and Twitter. I think the NHC had a peak intensity of 150 or so and it peaked at 145. Maybe in the Gulf in didn't quite reach expectations but it didn't bust.

And, I would say it qualifies as a monster

One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall


I think this is the model you're referring to?

https://i.imgur.com/WEZWl9O.png

That model was interpolated 6 hours, so not a true forecast.
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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#33 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:02 am

Iceresistance wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall

Are you talking about the NAM 3KM?

Even though the NAM model was crazy with Laura.

There's a good rule about using models: NEVER use the NAM to make a TC forecast and never take the NAM seriously in regards to TC's lol
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Re: Potential monster storms that never panned out

#34 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:36 am

kevin wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
shiny-pebble wrote:I don't think Delta qualifies. None of the professionals or models expected it to be Wilma 2.0, just the people on this forum and Twitter. I think the NHC had a peak intensity of 150 or so and it peaked at 145. Maybe in the Gulf in didn't quite reach expectations but it didn't bust.

And, I would say it qualifies as a monster

One model had Delta at 220 mph at landfall


I think this is the model you're referring to?

https://i.imgur.com/WEZWl9O.png

Yes that one
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