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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#381 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:42 am

NAM now showing no warm up for NE TX tomorrow with us staying in the clouds and holding in the low to mid 50s all day.
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#382 Postby HockeyTx82 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:52 am

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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#383 Postby TropicalTundra » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:48 am

Jesus Christ..... I knew the Canadian model was Canadian but not this Canadian.

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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#384 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:18 pm

Still holding in the low 50s here. Doubting we get much warmer tomorrow unless the clouds break which is doubtful.
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#385 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:02 am

Looks like Dallas will stay in the 40s with rain for sure nothing has really changed with the NAM in range it's gonna be nasty especially Monday and Monday Night with strong north winds our first official cold rain of the season(not surprised though it would have been absolutely insane to get a winter storm this early) even the fact it's only a few hours away is insane

Hopefully we'll have a setup like this in a month or two with colder air because nobody wants that much ice

Still a lot of uncertainty about how much ice occurs up towards the Falls there is still a wide range of possible accumulations(hopefully how warm its been will limit some of the totals) but unfortunately it looks like the snow will be even further NW

Meanwhile Louisiana may have another hurricane and then it merges with our front
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#386 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:06 am

GFS continues showing over a foot across the Panhandle.
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#387 Postby dhweather » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:32 am

Brent wrote:Looks like Dallas will stay in the 40s with rain for sure nothing has really changed with the NAM in range it's gonna be nasty especially Monday and Monday Night with strong north winds our first official cold rain of the season(not surprised though it would have been absolutely insane to get a winter storm this early) even the fact it's only a few hours away is insane

Hopefully we'll have a setup like this in a month or two with colder air because nobody wants that much ice

Still a lot of uncertainty about how much ice occurs up towards the Falls there is still a wide range of possible accumulations(hopefully how warm its been will limit some of the totals) but unfortunately it looks like the snow will be even further NW

Meanwhile Louisiana may have another hurricane and then it merges with our front



Conversely, it could be like other recent years, and be our one real shot of cold weather, then a mild winter. :roll:
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#388 Postby BTAYLOR5021 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:25 am

How is Abilene about 15 degrees colder than Dallas come Monday and Tuesday, when the city is only 2 hours west of Dallas. This has been a common set the passed few years with these winter events. DFW cold rain while North and west only about 1-2 hour in distance receives ice and snow.
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#389 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:25 am

dhweather wrote:
Conversely, it could be like other recent years, and be our one real shot of cold weather, then a mild winter. :roll:


It better not :spam: :roll:

BTAYLOR5021 wrote:How is Abilene about 15 degrees colder than Dallas come Monday and Tuesday, when the city is only 2 hours west of Dallas. This has been a common set the passed few years with these winter events. DFW cold rain while North and west only about 1-2 hour in distance receives ice and snow.


Maybe someone else can explain it better but I think it's the southeast ridge

Especially with this storm theres gonna be a huge temperature gradient as you head towards Louisiana
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#390 Postby Ntxw » Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:00 pm

Brent wrote:
dhweather wrote:
Conversely, it could be like other recent years, and be our one real shot of cold weather, then a mild winter. :roll:


It better not :spam: :roll:

BTAYLOR5021 wrote:How is Abilene about 15 degrees colder than Dallas come Monday and Tuesday, when the city is only 2 hours west of Dallas. This has been a common set the passed few years with these winter events. DFW cold rain while North and west only about 1-2 hour in distance receives ice and snow.


Maybe someone else can explain it better but I think it's the southeast ridge

Especially with this storm theres gonna be a huge temperature gradient as you head towards Louisiana


Abilene is nearly 2k ft above sea level while DFW is only a few hundred. Texas is huge, even though Abilene may seem like a nearby location but in reality it is quite a ways away. Also cold air surging down the slopes of West Texas has much more momentum due to the steep elevation gradient than towards I-35 corridor where it levels off. We often say the Ouachita mountains slow the movement of cold air on the eastern side of the state, the western side experiences the complete opposite effect.

On top of that with the higher elevation Abilene doesn't have to deal with the "warm nose" as much at 850mb that DFW and east have to deal with.
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#391 Postby BrokenGlassRepublicn » Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:04 pm

BTAYLOR5021 wrote:How is Abilene about 15 degrees colder than Dallas come Monday and Tuesday, when the city is only 2 hours west of Dallas. This has been a common set the passed few years with these winter events. DFW cold rain while North and west only about 1-2 hour in distance receives ice and snow.

The fact that Abilene is about 1,720 feet above see level vs. Dallas' 620 feet above see level has got to be a factor.
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#392 Postby Ntxw » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:32 pm

Today has been a good example of trying to erode cold dome too quickly. Hopefully this is a trend for winter. But in general big EPO dumps can be a lot harder to break down. The original forecast for us to rise to 80s, then toned to 70s, and now probably stuck in the low to mid 60s all day before the bigger front.
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#393 Postby HockeyTx82 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:34 pm

Ntxw wrote:Today has been a good example of trying to erode cold dome too quickly. Hopefully this is a trend for winter. But in general big EPO dumps can be a lot harder to break down. The original forecast for us to rise to 80s, then toned to 70s, and now probably stuck in the low to mid 60s all day before the bigger front.


Sounds just like the Cowboys and their current QB situation. Stepping down........
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#394 Postby Ntxw » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:59 pm

FYI it was -29F in Potomac, Montana this morning. Quite an impressive HP dome for October. Not sure what the records are for them but unusual for sure to see such a strong EPO dump this early.


National High and Low Temperature (for the contiguous United States)
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Issued 2 pm EDT Sunday, October 25, 2020

High Temperature for Saturday, October 24, 2020
(as received by 2 pm EDT October 25)
93 at Death Valley, CA

Low Temperature for Sunday, October 25, 2020
(as received by 2 pm EDT October 25)
-29 at Potomac, MT


For DFW 40s for highs is likely touching a record for just about any day in October (Oct 29, 1925 is the single outlier with a high of 34). So impressive it will be indeed.
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#395 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:55 pm

We just got put into a winter storm watch. Crazy
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#396 Postby Cerlin » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:07 pm

Temperatures are still running about 2-3 degrees colder than forecasted, kinda like they did a few days ago—is this a sign for the future? If Tuesday does the same thing that changes the freezing line by a significant distance...
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#397 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:13 pm

Can we get this temperature bust just once when it really matters

I just hope there isn't our only setup this winter
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#398 Postby DonWrk » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:01 pm

Brent wrote:Can we get this temperature bust just once when it really matters

I just hope there isn't our only setup this winter



Just one time!!!
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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#399 Postby TropicalTundra » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:01 pm

Currently freezing drizzle in Amarillo! :cold: :froze:

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Re: Texas Fall 2020

#400 Postby rwfromkansas » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:21 pm

We haven’t gone on a vacation so taking a long weekend to Ruidoso NM, heading out late Thursday night. I am hopeful they get a good dump there that will remain. They currently are on the southern end of things but here’s hoping.
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