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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#601 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:36 am

mrbagyo wrote:just wondering what's the current ACE of GONI?

19.4775 units as of 12Z.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#602 Postby euro6208 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:36 am

7.8 is 165 knots!
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#603 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:37 am

aspen wrote:
Hayabusa wrote:Preliminary maintain
22W GONI 201031 1200 14.2N 126.5E WPAC 155 904

That’s fair. It’s unclear how long this apparent strengthening phase is going to last, because there appears to be shear coming from the east.

I feel like that shear isn't going to have much of an effect on a storm of this caliber considering the shear is moving in the same direction as the storm
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#604 Postby euro6208 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:41 am

Any storm chasers chasing this?

James Reynolds and Josh Morgerman couldn't make it to the Philippines because of the ongoing pandemic. Wow talk about some lost records.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#605 Postby dexterlabio » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:42 am

Any westward or WNW wobble would be a saving moment for those areas in Bicol region hit by Typhoon Molave, just a week ago,
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#606 Postby Highteeld » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:44 am

This is getting extremely close to being a legitimate T 8.0

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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#607 Postby aspen » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:45 am

Highteeld wrote:This is getting extremely close to being a legitimate T 8.0

https://i.imgur.com/tfzgC23.png

If that new larger eye fully clears out before landfall, it’s an easy Haiyan-esqe T#8.0. Might even get the JTWC to upgrade it to 165-175 kt.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#608 Postby Fancy1001 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:46 am

Why is there no recon in the West Pacific?
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#609 Postby Highteeld » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:48 am

Eye temp really starting to increase again. I'd expect a RAW T back up to 7.8 or 7.9 at 1340z
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#610 Postby Highteeld » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:53 am

Looking at the eye shape, it looks like there are mini rosby waves/mesovorticies. Wind gusts up to 200 knots could be happening inside of those

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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#611 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:00 am

1900hurricane wrote:
mrbagyo wrote:just wondering what's the current ACE of GONI?

19.4775 units as of 12Z.



thanks!
WPAC trying to catch up with Atlantic's ACE.

euro6208 wrote:Any storm chasers chasing this?

James Reynolds and Josh Morgerman couldn't make it to the Philippines because of the ongoing pandemic. Wow talk about some lost records.


I'd probably chase it also if there's no pandemic - I've been to Bicol several times (including Catanduanes). IMO, Bicol region (except Catanduanes) is a more chase friendly location than the East coast of the Northern and Central Part of Luzon.


Rant: Philippine weather observation network system sucks - most sensors and instruments are not active or they give inaccurate readings and it's common to see "no data available". We always need to rely with private entity for these weather obs.
Anyway, some ordinary people who owns higher tear smartphone with pressure sensors can record the barometric pressure of Goni (off course if they are aware of this functionality and they know how to calibrate their device) - most iphones have barometers, even the flagships of Samsung and Chinese smartphone makers (Xiaomi and One Plus) contains pressure sensor.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#612 Postby Hayabusa » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:12 am

Back to 7.8
2020OCT31 124000 7.4 910.3 152.0 7.4 7.8 7.8 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 13.03 -82.03 EYE 12 IR 54.0 14.10 -126.20 ARCHER HIM-8 23.5
2020OCT31 131000 7.4 911.8 152.0 7.4 7.5 7.5 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF -3.67 -82.23 EYE 10 IR 54.0 14.11 -126.02 ARCHER HIM-8 23.7
2020OCT31 133000 7.5 908.7 155.0 7.5 7.8 7.8 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 12.15 -82.05 EYE 12 IR 54.0 14.05 -125.97 ARCHER HIM-8 23.7
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#613 Postby euro6208 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:13 am

Fancy1001 wrote:Why is there no recon in the West Pacific?


Probably budget issues. We did have recon for 43 years from 1944 to 1987.

Truly a loss in meteorology. I can't imagine what they would have found in Goni and other past dozens of typhoons.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#614 Postby Weatherboi1023 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:16 am

mrbagyo wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:
mrbagyo wrote:just wondering what's the current ACE of GONI?

19.4775 units as of 12Z.



thanks!
WPAC trying to catch up with Atlantic's ACE.

euro6208 wrote:Any storm chasers chasing this?

James Reynolds and Josh Morgerman couldn't make it to the Philippines because of the ongoing pandemic. Wow talk about some lost records.


I'd probably chase it also if there's no pandemic - I've been to Bicol several times (including Catanduanes). IMO, Bicol region (except Catanduanes) is a more chase friendly location than the East coast of the Northern and Central Part of Luzon.


Rant: Philippine weather observation network system sucks - most sensors and instruments are not active or they give inaccurate readings and it's common to see "no data available". We always need to rely with private entity for these weather obs.
Anyway, some ordinary people who owns higher tear smartphone with pressure sensors can record the barometric pressure of Goni (off course if they are aware of this functionality and they know how to calibrate their device) - most iphones have barometers, even the flagships of Samsung and Chinese smartphone makers (Xiaomi and One Plus) contains pressure sensor.


I will try to post baromteric pressure readings from my watch tomorrow. Am located in Makati City, Metro Manila.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#615 Postby aspen » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:20 am

Goni is still going SW and looks like it’s gonna hit Catanduanes Island within 10 hours.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#616 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:22 am

euro6208 wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:Why is there no recon in the West Pacific?


Probably budget issues. We did have recon for 43 years from 1944 to 1987.

Truly a loss in meteorology. I can't imagine what they would have found in Goni and other past dozens of typhoons.


Prohibition of foreign military bases in the Philippine Constitution of 1987 also likely played a major role. Subic and Clark are huge Military assets in Philippines that the US need to protect during their stay here.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#617 Postby NotoSans » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:25 am

I don't think Goni has strengthened. The eye has struggled to clear out (eye temperature remains in OW range), which indicates some VWS impact is going on.

That said, expect objective aids to show an increase in intensity, because as the core enlarges after ERC, they would be more capable of resolving it. ADT, for example, would handle the system better because its algorithm used to "average out" cloud top temperature would work well.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#618 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:26 am

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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#619 Postby aspen » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:26 am

If Goni’s CDG remains for the next several hours and that eye gets a little warmer, I think there’s a reasonable chance of the JTWC bumping it back up to 160-165 kt.
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Re: WPAC: GONI - Typhoon

#620 Postby NotoSans » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:30 am

Fancy1001 wrote:Why is there no recon in the West Pacific?


Sorry if this is too political but JTWC after all is part of the US military so it is not that it can deploy planes as it wishes.

Of course, other metrological organisations in WPAC can conduct recon, and in fact they have done so occasionally, but I don't think their planes are equipped with tools like SFMR, etc.
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