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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#521 Postby aspen » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:23 pm


The HWRF was right about a much weaker SE quadrant. It’s been scarily accurate with a lot of systems this year.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#522 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:25 pm

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The HWRF was right about a much weaker SE quadrant. It’s been scarily accurate with a lot of systems this year.

Yeah it has. It showed Eta having this structure a few days ago... That's why I'm worried about it getting pretty strong
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#523 Postby shiny-pebble » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:34 pm

Eta has really expanded in size in the past 12 hours
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#524 Postby Blown Away » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:35 pm

NHC barely adjusted the track even with Eta bombing out in intensity, so the deeper stronger hurricane may move more poleward idea doesn’t seem to matter in this scenario.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#525 Postby SFLcane » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:40 pm

Blown Away wrote:NHC barely adjusted the track even with Eta bombing out in intensity, so the deeper stronger hurricane may move more poleward idea doesn’t seem to matter in this scenario.


Regardless there is growing consensus this will develop in the nw Caribbean and potentially threaten SFL.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#526 Postby skyline385 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:44 pm

Lots of towers popping up around the center right now, could it be ahead of the HWRF forecast?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#527 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:45 pm

Blown Away wrote:NHC barely adjusted the track even with Eta bombing out in intensity, so the deeper stronger hurricane may move more poleward idea doesn’t seem to matter in this scenario.


Of course it does.

the NHC will always follow the model average. and right now they have not adjusted.. HMON is farther north and stronger for 18z.

sometimes you just have to wait and see.

But the models are showing weaker steering 500-400 mb layers. so a stronger system likely would not make landfall.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#528 Postby skyline385 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:46 pm

Looks to me like the eye is starting to pop out already

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#529 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:46 pm

Kazmit wrote:
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Bump. So, nobody really knows the answer as to why a stronger Eta would mover further N/NE and, therefore, if that is even true?

Isn't it usually a stronger storm moves west? I haven't paid attention to all the steering factors with Eta though. I know there can be exceptions

No, stronger is usually more east.

Yep you right I had a brain fart :lol:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#530 Postby gatorcane » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:46 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Blown Away wrote:NHC barely adjusted the track even with Eta bombing out in intensity, so the deeper stronger hurricane may move more poleward idea doesn’t seem to matter in this scenario.


Regardless there is growing consensus this will develop in the nw Caribbean and potentially threaten SFL.


Maybe this first part but the second doubtful in my opinion and if it does it would likely be a shell of its former self due to dry air and shear as well as land interaction. The models like the GFS are always hitting Florida beyond a week and in fact the latest GFS looks east of Florida anyway which is very possible for November. Now for the Caribbean for those in Nicaragua and Honduras :eek:

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#531 Postby skyline385 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:50 pm

Significantly stronger HWRF run too this time, difference of 12 mb (963 mb) at 12 hours from 12Z
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#532 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:54 pm

If this RI's or even ERI's and landfalls at it's peak... And then stalls... This could be a storm remembered for many years, maybe even decades, to come :eek: :double:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#533 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:54 pm

First hints of an eye starting to clear out.

likely to undergo RI from this point on.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#534 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:03 pm

18z HWRF thinks RI has already started. It predicts CAT4 Eta only 24 hours from now.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#535 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:08 pm

Look at that dual outflow channel and moisture supply from monsoon trough. This will aid Eta to go nuclear in no time...

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#536 Postby shiny-pebble » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:12 pm

Hot towers rotating around the center. No bueno.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#537 Postby skyline385 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:12 pm

So when is next recon again?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#538 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:17 pm

skyline385 wrote:So when is next recon again?


Arrives at 06Z. Leaves base around 02Z.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#539 Postby aspen » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:19 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
skyline385 wrote:So when is next recon again?


Arrives at 06Z. Leaves base around 02Z.

Good timing. The HWRF is expecting at least a Cat 2 hurricane by then, so recon will be able to confirm whether it’s right or not.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#540 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:20 pm

aspen wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
skyline385 wrote:So when is next recon again?


Arrives at 06Z. Leaves base around 02Z.

Good timing. The HWRF is expecting at least a Cat 2 hurricane by then, so recon will be able to confirm whether it’s right or not.


I'd very conservatively go 60 kt at the intermediate advisory forthcoming.
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