ATL: ETA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1161 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:01 pm

Either it has completed a quick ERC or just trying to completely clear out the eye(which maybe larger than we thought)

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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1162 Postby Owasso » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:01 pm

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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1163 Postby aspen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:01 pm

The eye has significantly cooled...because the CDO has cooled to a pure <-80C pink ring. The eye should warm up again over the next few hours.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1164 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:01 pm

likely a cat 5 with the last hour of trends
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1165 Postby aspen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:02 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Either it has completed a quick ERC or just trying to completely clear out the eye(which maybe larger than we thought)

https://i.imgur.com/f3RLQC9.gif

The HWRF did predict a quick EWRC around midday from a tiny pinhole to a slightly larger eye. Perhaps it was right.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1166 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:02 pm

TorSkk wrote:Cloud tops getting colder with a full CDG ring

Need the eye temp to be positive as it's the only thing holding MW intensity estimates back.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1168 Postby ClarCari » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:03 pm

Okay note to self stay off twitter guys! :lol:

There’s alot of “self-proclaimed” people on there claiming that “OMG they eye is shrinking so that means there’s slight shear and a ERC is happenningggggg.”

It’s called pinhole eye and increasing convection. And a storm this dense is practically invincible to 15kt shear or less. :lol:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1169 Postby Owasso » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:03 pm

Don't think it's a ERC, I think it's just clearing out the eye. MW shows that the inner eyewall is robust and that an EWRC is still far out.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1170 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:05 pm

Depending on what recon finds, Eta's true intensity could range from 120kt to 160kt+

In other words, nobody have a clue right now :spam:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1171 Postby underthwx » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:05 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:likely a cat 5 with the last hour of trends


Aric, what length of time over land is ETA forecast to spend?....I wonder how weak the storm will be, given the intensity it is now...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1172 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:05 pm

Yeah doesn't look like an ERC. Just dealing with the explosion of the -80*C CDO. Has time to clear out eye and warm up before recon arrives. This could be mind-blowing stuff we are about to see.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1173 Postby TallyTracker » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:06 pm

Actually I wonder if the deepening eyewall convection resulted in some high-level clouding of the eye hence the cooling eye temps.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1174 Postby Blown Away » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:06 pm

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Not as impressive looking on the IR as earlier...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1175 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:09 pm

Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/hZKJHXY.gif
Not as impressive looking on the IR as earlier...

Please tell me you're joking.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1176 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:09 pm

TallyTracker wrote:Actually I wonder if the deepening eyewall convection resulted in some high-level clouding of the eye hence the cooling eye temps.

We've certainly seen cloud filled eye in very strong systems such 2015 Joaquin and 2016 Mathhew.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1177 Postby aspen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:10 pm

Eye is looking slightly larger and better on visible imagery.
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#1178 Postby shiny-pebble » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:10 pm

Blown Away wrote:Image
Not as impressive looking on the IR as earlier...
What?? It looks even better. The eye just got clouded over because of how intense the convection is.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1179 Postby aspen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:14 pm

Crazy said that recon should arrive in about 3 hours. That’ll be 10.5 hours after the last center fix, so if Eta has continued its 4.2 mb/hr deepening, it could be in the 920s by the time the plane arrives.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1180 Postby NotoSans » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:16 pm

The eye has cooled to B range but overall the warm spot has become slightly larger. Looks like a quick ERC to me. Expect eye to clear out again soon.
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