ATL: ETA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[JamesRainier]

Oh for Pete’s sake, the recon plane is heading back. What is it with recon today?

Several Missions into Zeta were called off for some reason.

That can't be mechanical then.

Edit - I had read it as several missions into Eta

[ElectricStorm]

I'm sure the NHC is doing everything they can at the moment, but we need recon in there asap. Not just for us hurricane watchers, but more importantly for the area that is about to be impacted. They need to know what they're up against and I'm afraid it could be a lot worse than what the NHC can currently estimate with the data they have. Just get any good recon plane available and send it in there.

Time to send the entire fleet! At least 1 of them is bound to make it!

[Nimbus]

After an eye expansion it takes a few hours for the windfields to reflect the larger inflow.
Windfields matter too.

[AutoPenalti]

I'm sure the NHC is doing everything they can at the moment, but we need recon in there asap. Not just for us hurricane watchers, but more importantly for the area that is about to be impacted. They need to know what they're up against and I'm afraid it could be a lot worse than what the NHC can currently estimate with the data they have. Just get any good recon plane available and send it in there.

At this point, they are cutting it close. The more time it takes to get airborne, the less time they have to sample Eta.

[LarryWx]

The NHC needs to send out another recon plane ASAP. It’s been hours since we’ve had direct data, and they need to know its exact intensity for warnings.

Can't they already tell enough from satellite/microwave data that it is an extremely powerful storm without needing to see the direct data for appropriate warnings? I would also love to see the recon data and hope they get in there before landfall so we have the most accurate record possible for this storm, but how critical is it now for warnings, especially since the NHC has already acknowledged that it is a beast that will get even stronger (150)? How much difference it is going to make for warnings if it ends up being 160 or even 175 mph?

[Owasso]

 https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1323370706739089409

[Cunxi Huang]

SSMI pass is coming up soon.

[Andy_L]

Are any of the hurricane chasers down there that we know of? Josh etc?

[cjrciadt]

Are any of the hurricane chasers down there that we know of? Josh etc?

Nope
No Recon
No Chasers
No Live Cams
No Obs
No Bouys

[kevin]

The next recon plan is scheduled to leave at 6pm EST right?

[BobHarlem]

Are any of the hurricane chasers down there that we know of? Josh etc?

Josh is not, that area of Nicaragua is mostly dirt roads and poor infrastructure, just not a safe place to be even by their standards.

[edu2703]

Are any of the hurricane chasers down there that we know of? Josh etc?

I don't think any of them would be crazy enough for adventures on Honduras' muddy roads.

[supercane4867]

Guess I'm done tracking this storm unless a recon gets there...too much frustration to handle

[aspen]

Anything about why the AF mission turned back?

[cycloneye]

If anyone will stay up in the overnight, the next plane goes at 1:30 AM EST.

[edu2703]

First ASCAT, now recon

This storm will definetly get main attention on post-season analysis

[ElectricStorm]

If anyone will stay up in the overnight, the next plane goes at 1:30 AM EST.

They REALLY need to send one out before then.

[Kazmit]

That really sucks... they won’t upgrade it to a cat 5 without recon.

[HurricaneAndre2008]

We need some new planes, and new training for the pilots to check stuff before they leave. This is becoming too much for this many recons to fail like this

[Highteeld]

Looking really intense right now. Would guess about 130 knots