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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1041 Postby gatorcane » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:19 pm

18Z ICON is 16mb stronger and more SW than 12Z by hour 102 in the Bahamas. Basically has a hurricane.

Edit: landfalls near Palm Beach at 979mb at 120 hours

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1042 Postby StAuggy » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:38 pm

I’m still going out on a limb and saying NE Florida—>South Carolina for a landfall point. I feel like I’m seeing more runs with east coast hook backs and they keep ending further up to the north... regardless of the model I’m not playing favorites here just noticing the outlier trends
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1043 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:39 pm

gatorcane wrote:18Z ICON is 16mb stronger and more SW than 12Z by hour 102 in the Bahamas. Basically has a hurricane.

Edit: landfalls near Palm Beach at 979mb at 120 hours

https://i.postimg.cc/gJvj59VB/icon-mslp-wind-watl-fh0-114.gif

Low end Cat 1 honestly.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1044 Postby ronjon » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:40 pm

12z Euro sticking to its track and gets ETA down to 970 mb in the GOM.
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#1045 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:44 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:Haven’t been here for a while. Let me guess. Louisiana.

Surprisingly no. Though the 12z Euro has it just SE of it this time next week.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1046 Postby Blown Away » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:45 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
gatorcane wrote:18Z ICON is 16mb stronger and more SW than 12Z by hour 102 in the Bahamas. Basically has a hurricane.

Edit: landfalls near Palm Beach at 979mb at 120 hours

https://i.postimg.cc/gJvj59VB/icon-mslp-wind-watl-fh0-114.gif

Low end Cat 1 honestly.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1047 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:55 pm

Blown Away wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
gatorcane wrote:18Z ICON is 16mb stronger and more SW than 12Z by hour 102 in the Bahamas. Basically has a hurricane.

Edit: landfalls near Palm Beach at 979mb at 120 hours

https://i.postimg.cc/gJvj59VB/icon-mslp-wind-watl-fh0-114.gif

Low end Cat 1 honestly.

https://i.imgur.com/FO3Qs5u.jpg

Pressures sometimes don't correlate with wind speeds.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1048 Postby Blown Away » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:56 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Low end Cat 1 honestly.

https://i.imgur.com/FO3Qs5u.jpg

Pressures sometimes don't correlate with wind speeds.


Agree, but this scale gives a good baseline.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1049 Postby SFLcane » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:00 pm

gatorcane wrote:18Z ICON is 16mb stronger and more SW than 12Z by hour 102 in the Bahamas. Basically has a hurricane.

Edit: landfalls near Palm Beach at 979mb at 120 hours

https://i.postimg.cc/gJvj59VB/icon-mslp-wind-watl-fh0-114.gif


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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1050 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:03 pm

Blown Away wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
gatorcane wrote:18Z ICON is 16mb stronger and more SW than 12Z by hour 102 in the Bahamas. Basically has a hurricane.

Edit: landfalls near Palm Beach at 979mb at 120 hours

https://i.postimg.cc/gJvj59VB/icon-mslp-wind-watl-fh0-114.gif

Low end Cat 1 honestly.

https://i.imgur.com/FO3Qs5u.jpg


There's a reason why pressure is no longer on the the Saffir Simpson scale. Although a 979mb storm the size of what the ICON shows would likely result in a strong Cat-1 weak Cat-2, due to the extensive land interaction and interaction with a trough the storm is likely going to end up on the larger side so a weak to midgrade Cat-1 is possible with that pressure in that scenario. The ICON is likely way too small with the storm.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1051 Postby chaser1 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:03 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Low end Cat 1 honestly.

https://i.imgur.com/FO3Qs5u.jpg

Pressures sometimes don't correlate with wind speeds.


Good point.....that perspective could then be applied to suggest a possible "low end" Cat 3 then. I think it's quite premature to say, especially given that we're yet to determine if this will be subtropical or fully tropical.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1052 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:13 pm

chaser1 wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:

Pressures sometimes don't correlate with wind speeds.


Good point.....that perspective could then be applied to suggest a possible "low end" Cat 3 then. I think it's quite premature to say, especially given that we're yet to determine if this will be subtropical or fully tropical.

Which is why sometimes the GFS and Euro shouldn’t be used as intensity forecasts considering its low grid resolution. I’m glad the HWRF has been excelling this year, it seriously impressed when needed.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1053 Postby SFLcane » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:19 pm

Wow gfs 979mb really? SFL on dirty side
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1054 Postby aspen » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:20 pm

18z Happy Hour gets this trapped in the Florida Straits and makes landfall in SFL/the Keys as a Cat1.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1055 Postby SFLcane » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:23 pm

Today’s trends are interesting SFL might have to prepare for a minimal hurricane.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1056 Postby Steve H. » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:31 pm

Also note that if this is a more hybrid system, the winfield will probably be more extensive.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1057 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:53 pm

GFS reaggressive with Eta, powerful & extemely dangerous hurricane that is meandering all around the Caribbean
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1058 Postby Blown Away » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:02 pm

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18z GFS "Happy Hour" didn't disappoint... Wow, one crazy ride from Honduras to Florida Keys then all the way to Veracruz Mexico...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1059 Postby toad strangler » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:09 pm

18z GEFS

This could be legit trouble for any terra firma near where it decides to meander around

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1060 Postby toad strangler » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:13 pm

And then it looks like the 18z GEFS went drinking with the OP tonight as most are stumbling west with it in the longer range :D

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