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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1121 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:33 am

HWRF with a TS into SFL Sunday

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Heads NE into the Bahamas

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Then strengthens and moves back west into Vero/Melbourne. What a wild set up. This all takes place Sunday to Monday so HWRF seems to be much faster and east than the NHC


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One thing this model is good at is predicting the structure and it appears to show a very lopsided storm with everything to the North and East.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1122 Postby LarryWx » Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:55 am

6z GEFS: :eek: :eek:

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1123 Postby N2FSU » Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:58 am

6z GFS; Cat 2/3 into my neck of the woods Image


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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1124 Postby xironman » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:14 am

Another case of baroclinic enhancement on final approach? The GFS has been doing fairly well at 500mb.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1125 Postby SFLcane » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:38 am

06z Hwrf intensifies This rather quickly in the nw Caribbean brining it to a hurricane and then into south Florida 982 mb
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1126 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:53 am

SFLcane wrote:06z Hwrf intensifies This rather quickly in the nw Caribbean brining it to a hurricane and then into south Florida 982 mb

Seems to be the only model that brings it to South Florida, as others such as the GFS and Euro remain south of the state.

Still thinking rain will be the main issue here in South Florida.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1127 Postby SFLcane » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:01 am

TheStormExpert wrote:
SFLcane wrote:06z Hwrf intensifies This rather quickly in the nw Caribbean brining it to a hurricane and then into south Florida 982 mb

Seems to be the only model that brings it to South Florida, as others such as the GFS and Euro remain south of the state.

Still thinking rain will be the main issue here in South Florida.


06z Hmon has a 987mb system into Broward.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1128 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:02 am

SFLcane wrote:
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SFLcane wrote:06z Hwrf intensifies This rather quickly in the nw Caribbean brining it to a hurricane and then into south Florida 982 mb

Seems to be the only model that brings it to South Florida, as others such as the GFS and Euro remain south of the state.

Still thinking rain will be the main issue here in South Florida.


06z Hmon has a 987mb system into Broward.

Besides the hurricane models which are no good without an actual LLC.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1129 Postby gatorcane » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:21 am

Models trending more towards a turn west into the Gulf before reaching South Florida as the SE ridge flexes its muscle again.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1130 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:24 am

gatorcane wrote:Models trending more towards a turn west into the Gulf before reaching South Florida as the SE ridge flexes its muscle again.

https://i.postimg.cc/wxfskc0K/storm-29-ens.gif

If that's the case then this may never reach South Florida. That SE Ridge has been a semi-permanent feature over the past many months.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1131 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:31 am

TheStormExpert wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Models trending more towards a turn west into the Gulf before reaching South Florida as the SE ridge flexes its muscle again.

https://i.postimg.cc/wxfskc0K/storm-29-ens.gif

If that's the case then this may never reach South Florida. That SE Ridge has been a semi-permanent feature over the past many months.


actually worse for south Florida in terms of flooding if it stays south and west.which was always going to be the big issue...just had our first downpour of this 6+ day rain event that starts today

The ground is very saturated from a few weeks of heavy rain so this is going to be big trouble for an area that can typically take on big totals
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1132 Postby gatorcane » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:44 am

Highly sheared according the the GFS:

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1133 Postby SFLcane » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:46 am

Once low pressure forms tonight or tomorrow we will have a much better idea on what we might expect here in Florida.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1134 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:47 am

jlauderdal wrote:
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gatorcane wrote:Models trending more towards a turn west into the Gulf before reaching South Florida as the SE ridge flexes its muscle again.

https://i.postimg.cc/wxfskc0K/storm-29-ens.gif

If that's the case then this may never reach South Florida. That SE Ridge has been a semi-permanent feature over the past many months.


actually worse for south Florida in terms of flooding if it stays south and west.which was always going to be the big issue...just had our first downpour of this 6+ day rain event that starts today

The ground is very saturated from a few weeks of heavy rain so this is going to be big trouble for an area that can typically take on big totals

Well wind obviously won't be a huge issue. But we definitely don't need the rain. :roll:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1135 Postby SFLcane » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:47 am

gatorcane wrote:Highly sheared according the the GFS:

https://i.postimg.cc/8C0DXHX3/gfs-ir-watl-fh1-115-3.gif


Sheared or not impacts will be felt across the peninsula. Still early to be banking in any models
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1136 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:48 am

gatorcane wrote:Highly sheared according the the GFS:

https://i.postimg.cc/8C0DXHX3/gfs-ir-watl-fh1-115-3.gif

The 00z GFS showing better UL conditions in The Bahamas must've been a fluke.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1137 Postby SFLcane » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:51 am

TheStormExpert wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:If that's the case then this may never reach South Florida. That SE Ridge has been a semi-permanent feature over the past many months.


actually worse for south Florida in terms of flooding if it stays south and west.which was always going to be the big issue...just had our first downpour of this 6+ day rain event that starts today

The ground is very saturated from a few weeks of heavy rain so this is going to be big trouble for an area that can typically take on big totals

Well wind obviously won't be a huge issue. But we definitely don't need the rain. :roll:


Based on One set of models runs? Impacts to the peninsula still are highly unknown.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1138 Postby boca » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:53 am

If the models are using Eta the circulation is almost in the Pacific so I saw this area WSW of Jamaica this morning look interesting. I wonder if the system that’s forecast to develop in the Gulf of Honduras is something else the models are picking up.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1139 Postby Nuno » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:54 am

jlauderdal wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Models trending more towards a turn west into the Gulf before reaching South Florida as the SE ridge flexes its muscle again.

https://i.postimg.cc/wxfskc0K/storm-29-ens.gif

If that's the case then this may never reach South Florida. That SE Ridge has been a semi-permanent feature over the past many months.


actually worse for south Florida in terms of flooding if it stays south and west.which was always going to be the big issue...just had our first downpour of this 6+ day rain event that starts today

The ground is very saturated from a few weeks of heavy rain so this is going to be big trouble for an area that can typically take on big totals


I already lost power for 20 mins. I'm going to hate this weekend.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1140 Postby SFLcane » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:03 am

06z GEFS ensembles..

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