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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1321 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:05 am

Weatherboy1 wrote:These shifts (slightly) N and E will need to be monitored. GFS, HMON, HWRF all shifted vs 0Z ... curious to see if that happens during midday cycle too
nhc has been left of tvcn so lets see if they bring it right, they probably will need to bring it into south dade county on the next disco...intensity always a mystery so I am preparing for a cat 1 but even with a strong ts, we have overhead lines on the east side of fort laud so 50 will do it...last week in nc we never went above 45 and power went down..we actually had higher gusts the night after zeta as there was some serious upslope action, power didn't go down
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1322 Postby NDG » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:18 am

According to the HWRF and GFS, strong winds possibly gusting to hurricane force could cover a large area all the way to the Treasure coast.
Sounding forecast shows 75-85 knot winds just a few hundred feet above the surface near Palm Beach, strong convection could bring some of those winds down in downdrafts.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1323 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:21 am

The 6z HMON crawls southwest of Florida before turning east and landfalling in south Florida again. That would bring horrific rain totals to some areas if that were to occur.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1324 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:22 am

NDG wrote:According to the HWRF and GFS, strong winds possibly gusting to hurricane force could cover a large area all the way to the Treasure coast.
Sounding forecast shows 75-85 knot winds just a few hundred feet above the surface near Palm Beach, strong convection could bring some of those winds down in downdrafts.

https://i.imgur.com/7Cevh9q.png

good point about mixing down the winds...key west to Jupiter needs to prepare for a cat 1, might need to move that to the north another 100 miles, lets see what nhc and the euro does
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1325 Postby NDG » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:25 am

jlauderdal wrote:
NDG wrote:According to the HWRF and GFS, strong winds possibly gusting to hurricane force could cover a large area all the way to the Treasure coast.
Sounding forecast shows 75-85 knot winds just a few hundred feet above the surface near Palm Beach, strong convection could bring some of those winds down in downdrafts.

https://i.imgur.com/7Cevh9q.png

good point about mixing down the winds...key west to Jupiter needs to prepare for a cat 1, might need to move that to the north another 100 miles, lets see what nhc and the euro does


We know the Euro over amplifies ridges and the GFS under amplifies it a lot of times, so I would say a consensus between the GFS and Euro is a good bet at this time.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1326 Postby NDG » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:34 am

06z Euro, stronger and a little closer to the GFS.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1327 Postby SFLcane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:44 am

NDG wrote:06z Euro, stronger and a little closer to the GFS.

https://i.imgur.com/D1uNqcP.gif

https://i.imgur.com/DQKtwEX.gif


Time to prepare for a hurricane South Florida!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1328 Postby Blown Away » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:52 am

SFLcane wrote:
NDG wrote:06z Euro, stronger and a little closer to the GFS.

https://i.imgur.com/D1uNqcP.gif

https://i.imgur.com/DQKtwEX.gif


Time to prepare for a hurricane South Florida!


Wow, that seems like a sizable move N & E from the Euro compared to 00z?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1329 Postby SFLcane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:55 am

Blown Away wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
NDG wrote:06z Euro, stronger and a little closer to the GFS.

https://i.imgur.com/D1uNqcP.gif

https://i.imgur.com/DQKtwEX.gif


Time to prepare for a hurricane South Florida!


Wow, that seems like a sizable move N & E from the Euro compared to 00z?


Yes it is and stronger to!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1330 Postby SFLcane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:23 am

Wow at these 12z models!

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1331 Postby NDG » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:33 am



The NHC will have no option but to move its track further north and east following the 12z TVCN.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1332 Postby Cat5James » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:40 am



Landfall all but guaranteed between the Keys and PBC
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1333 Postby Nuno » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:46 am

So much for climatology and history...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1334 Postby crimi481 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:47 am

That model graphic implies s.w. Florida will be in thick of it - i do believe. I am in Venice
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1335 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:49 am

Nuno wrote:So much for climatology and history...


A tropical storm hitting Florida from the east...that is currently near/over Belize. :double:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1336 Postby SFLcane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:51 am

Were is that shield now? :roll: :lol:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1337 Postby chaser1 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:54 am

HurricaneFrances04 wrote:
Nuno wrote:So much for climatology and history...


A tropical storm hitting Florida from the east...that is currently near/over Belize. :double:


Right, good luck finding THAT in the 'ol history books LOL
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1338 Postby ronjon » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:58 am

Think ETA is going to catch a lot of Floridians by surprise with predicted landfall in 66 hrs in S FL. Fortunately it doesn't look like it'll get above CAT 1 in strength - although as others have said it only takes moderate tropical storm force conditions to lose power. Me, on the Florida west coast, am worried about the storm stalling or meandering off the coast for several days bringing perhaps multiple rounds of storm surge inundation to the coast. It does appear that the system will wind down in the eastern GOM with time so that is a plus right now with the models.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1339 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:01 am

SFLcane wrote:Were is that shield now? :roll: :lol:
in my garage, 50 gallons :D :P
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1340 Postby SconnieCane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:01 am

SFLcane wrote:Were is that shield now? :roll: :lol:


Eh, it won't (barring something dramatic being missed by the models, which can't be ruled out) be a 120kt+ monster, so technically the shield still holds. :lol:

Apparently the "Shield" only refers to worst-case scenario impacts to the peninsula (thus Michael doesn't count, and neither does Irma since it got a chunk taken out of it by Cuba first).
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