Tropical Wave in the Eastern Caribbean (Is Invest 98L)

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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#21 Postby Hurricanehink » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:09 pm

If Iota is another epic I storm, I swear...
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#22 Postby LarryWx » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:40 pm

12Z UKMET: a new TD in Caribbean late week moving W and then SW

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 120 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+120 : 15.9N 72.5W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 13.11.2020 120 15.9N 72.5W 1007 29
0000UTC 14.11.2020 132 15.9N 74.3W 1007 28
1200UTC 14.11.2020 144 14.8N 75.5W 1007 26
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#23 Postby LarryWx » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:44 pm

This what the 0Z CMC has for Central America and SE Mexico early next week: :eek: :eek:

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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#24 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:46 pm

LarryWx wrote:This what the 0Z CMC has for Central America and SE Mexico early next week: :eek: :eek:

https://i.imgur.com/NujHCuY.png

On top of the disaster from Eta... Not liking the trends for "future Theta/Iota" :eek:
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#25 Postby Astromanía » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:03 am

Expect many deaths from this potential system unfortunately, maybe the deadliest system of the season, CA and SE Mexico are not a place you want those big rainfall acumulations
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#26 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:15 am

Bad news on the 0z GFS... :eek: Luckily it's long-range...
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#27 Postby LarryWx » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:34 am

LarryWx wrote:12Z UKMET: a new TD in Caribbean late week moving W and then SW

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 120 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+120 : 15.9N 72.5W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 13.11.2020 120 15.9N 72.5W 1007 29
0000UTC 14.11.2020 132 15.9N 74.3W 1007 28
1200UTC 14.11.2020 144 14.8N 75.5W 1007 26


0Z UKMET is similar to the 12Z


NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 120 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+120 : 14.5N 74.1W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 14.11.2020 120 14.5N 74.1W 1007 31
1200UTC 14.11.2020 132 13.5N 74.7W 1007 31
0000UTC 15.11.2020 144 12.9N 75.6W 1005
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#28 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:01 am

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A tropical wave is forecast to move over the central Caribbean Sea,
where an area of low pressure could form in a couple of days.
Environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for
development, and a tropical depression could form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves slowly westward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#29 Postby kevin » Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:03 am

Pretty strong model support atm with GFS, GFS-para, CMC and ICON. Euro still doesn't develop it, but does show an area of disturbance entering the WCar. Here are the 00z runs for those 4 models at their peak intensity.

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ICON:
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#30 Postby GCANE » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:41 am

Good potential with this one.

Likely will spin up Thursday being on the SW side of a TUTT.

Could move into the GoM under a ARWB.

Dry air would be the inhibiting factor.

A lot to watch out for the Florida folks.



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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#31 Postby SFLcane » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:11 am

06z gfs drops significant development.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#32 Postby aspen » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:27 am

SFLcane wrote:06z gfs drops significant development.

It’s been flipping between two scenarios: either the wave gets tangled up with stuff north of the islands, or it remains separate without interference. 06z went to the former scenario but the 12z or 18z could easily go back to the latter.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the eastern Caribbean

#33 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:13 am

Where is the wave right now?

EDIT: Is it the one just outside of the Leeward Islands?

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Re: Tropical Wave in the eastern Caribbean

#34 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:55 am

Iceresistance wrote:Where is the wave right now?

EDIT: Is it the one just outside of the Leeward Islands?


The wave axis is slightly west of the islands, roughly at 63-64W.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the eastern Caribbean

#35 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:57 am

Extratropical94 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:Where is the wave right now?

EDIT: Is it the one just outside of the Leeward Islands?


The wave axis is slightly west of the islands, roughly at 63-64W.

West? I thought that the wave was on the convection just east of the islands.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the eastern Caribbean

#36 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:10 am

Iceresistance wrote:
Extratropical94 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:Where is the wave right now?

EDIT: Is it the one just outside of the Leeward Islands?


The wave axis is slightly west of the islands, roughly at 63-64W.

West? I thought that the wave was on the convection just east of the islands.


Yeah, the axis itself is west of the islands. The convection also belongs to the same wave, but it is primarily caused by the increased surface convergence to the east of the wave, where the easterly flow converges towards the wave axis. That is why tropical waves often appear to be further east than they actually are.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the eastern Caribbean

#37 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:48 am

Extratropical94 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Extratropical94 wrote:
The wave axis is slightly west of the islands, roughly at 63-64W.

West? I thought that the wave was on the convection just east of the islands.


Yeah, the axis itself is west of the islands. The convection also belongs to the same wave, but it is primarily caused by the increased surface convergence to the east of the wave, where the easterly flow converges towards the wave axis. That is why tropical waves often appear to be further east than they actually are.

I see now, it looks like the wave itself (And a circulation feature) is SE of Puerto Rico with a scattered convection with the convection load on top of the Leeward Islands
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Eastern Caribbean

#38 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:09 am

ICON on board as early as this saturday.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Eastern Caribbean

#39 Postby aspen » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:21 am

12z GFS once again shows entanglement. There’s this thousand mile long string of vorticity between the Caribbean wave and a second wave that keeps the former a broad low/spin. The latter runs into the Greater Antilles in about a week and leaves the formed in the south Caribbean.
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Re: Tropical Wave in the Eastern Caribbean

#40 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:32 am

GFS with a broad low at 200 hours.
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