ATL: ETA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4041 Postby underthwx » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:00 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
underthwx wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:

Not even close to the center.

https://i.ibb.co/g9NZTbQ/Capture.png

So... observations from the center are needed Aric?


This is all we have so far.. lol.

I hear ya..
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4042 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:03 pm

underthwx wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
underthwx wrote:So... observations from the center are needed Aric?


This is all we have so far.. lol.

I hear ya..

If the pressure is 997 MB, & it's not even close to the center . . . :sick:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4043 Postby Ian2401 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:04 pm

where are you guys getting these recon readouts?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4044 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:06 pm

Ian2401 wrote:where are you guys getting these recon readouts?



Here: http://tropicalatlantic.com/recon/
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4045 Postby xironman » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:07 pm

989, so 57 might have to say this has not degraded to a wave.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4046 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:08 pm

PRESSURE IS DOWN TO 989MB! :shocked!:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4047 Postby underthwx » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:11 pm

Iceresistance wrote:PRESSURE IS DOWN TO 989MB! :shocked!:

What does 989 indicate Ice?..I don't know millibars like yall do....
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4048 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:11 pm

You can see the center long range out of Key West....https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?product=N0Z&rid=BYX&loop=yes
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4049 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:12 pm

xironman wrote:989, so 57 might have to say this has not degraded to a wave.

The fact that wxman57 has been consistently bearish on Eta provides the most bullish case for her :wink:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4050 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:12 pm

Was that a drop in the center?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4051 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:13 pm

underthwx wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:PRESSURE IS DOWN TO 989MB! :shocked!:

What does 989 indicate Ice?..I don't know millibars like yall do....


989 MilliBars, that is what the NHC uses for central pressure of a tropical cyclone.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4052 Postby xironman » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:13 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Was that a drop in the center?

Yes
Product: NOAA Vortex Message (URNT12 KWBC)
Transmitted: 10th day of the month at 23:05Z
Agency: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
Aircraft: Lockheed WP-3D Orion (Reg. Num. N42RF)
Storm Number & Year: 29 in 2020
Storm Name: Eta (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 18
Observation Number: 08

A. Time of Center Fix: 10th day of the month at 22:47:35Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 23.40N 84.59W
B. Center Fix Location: 143 statute miles (230 km) to the W (278°) from Havana, Cuba.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,347m (4,419ft) at 850mb
D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 989mb (29.21 inHg)
E. Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center: From 5° at 4kts (From the N at 5mph)
F. Eye Character: Not Available
G. Eye Shape: Not Available
H. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 47kts (54.1mph)
I. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 22 nautical miles (25 statute miles) to the NNW (338°) of center fix at 22:38:20Z
J. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 114° at 53kts (From the ESE at 61.0mph)
K. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 52 nautical miles (60 statute miles) to the NNE (21°) of center fix at 22:28:45Z
L. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 28kts (32.2mph)
M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 24 nautical miles (28 statute miles) to the SW (225°) of center fix at 22:54:00Z
N. Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: From 310° at 34kts (From the NW at 39.1mph)
O. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 29 nautical miles (33 statute miles) to the SW (225°) of center fix at 22:55:05Z
P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,537m (5,043ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 25°C (77°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,536m (5,039ft)
R. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 17°C (63°F)
R. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
S. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
S. Fix Level: 850mb
T. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.01 nautical miles
T. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile

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Maximum Flight Level Wind: 53kts (~ 61.0mph) which was observed 52 nautical miles (60 statute miles) to the NNE (21°) from the flight level center at 22:28:45Z
General Note About Vortex Messages:
- SFMR and flight level winds are usually averaged over a 10 second period. (The National Hurricane Center's advisory wind speeds are the highest expected winds averaged over a 1 minute period.)
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4053 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:13 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Was that a drop in the center?

Yes :eek:

EDIT: :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4054 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:14 pm

Center is welllll east of track and moving ene to NE..

00z models are going to be really interesting..

SE and E quads are probably at hurricane or very near.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4055 Postby underthwx » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:14 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
underthwx wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:PRESSURE IS DOWN TO 989MB! :shocked!:

What does 989 indicate Ice?..I don't know millibars like yall do....


989 MilliBars, that is what the NHC uses for central pressure of a tropical cyclone.

Lol...yeah..I understand that part...my question was...what strength does 989 millobars indicate?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4056 Postby beachnut » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:17 pm

NBC-2 radar out of Fort Myers: https://nbc-2.com/weather/radar/

Geez, I just looked out of curiosity at S2K when I got home from work lol ...

edit: switch to the hi-res radar layer on the widget
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4057 Postby Cat5James » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:17 pm

underthwx wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
underthwx wrote:What does 989 indicate Ice?..I don't know millibars like yall do....


989 MilliBars, that is what the NHC uses for central pressure of a tropical cyclone.

Lol...yeah..I understand that part...my question was...what strength does 989 millobars indicate?

Strong TS... winds would have to match up for it to be a borderline C1 Hurricane
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4058 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:18 pm

It's getting that classic comma shape.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4059 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:18 pm

beachnut wrote:NBC-2 radar out of Fort Myers: https://nbc-2.com/weather/radar/

Geez, I just looked out of curiosity at S2K when I got home from work lol ...


Good thing you got on, welcome to the team! :D
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4060 Postby underthwx » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:18 pm

Cat5James wrote:
underthwx wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
989 MilliBars, that is what the NHC uses for central pressure of a tropical cyclone.

Lol...yeah..I understand that part...my question was...what strength does 989 millobars indicate?

Strong TS... winds would have to match up for it to be a borderline C1 Hurricane

Ok....thanks!
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