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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1181 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:06 am

NotSparta wrote:
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Ryxn wrote:So it should be upgraded at 10 EST?


12z ATCF was upped to 140 knots, so yes, it'll be upgraded at 10 am EST.


12z ATCF is still 135kt, what we saw here is an OFCL forecast point, not best track


Didn't notice that. In that case, 135 knots. A little baffled by that decision. 2016 definitely didn't have a Category 5 then.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1182 Postby talkon » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:06 am

NotSparta wrote:12z ATCF is still 135kt, what we saw here is an OFCL forecast point, not best track


It's the 3 hour forecast point though, which is the advisory point, so it should be 140kt in the upcoming advisory.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1183 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:06 am

Eye clearly warming again on IR. Next recon should find an even stronger Iota
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1184 Postby chaser1 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:06 am

tolakram wrote:
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tolakram wrote:L. 143 kt on the outbound trip.


And was that in fact a 9 NM eye?


C12, 12 miles


Thank you, too much coffee this morning lol
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1185 Postby NDG » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:08 am

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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1186 Postby Owasso » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:08 am

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Another center pass.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1187 Postby tolakram » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:09 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
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12z ATCF was upped to 140 knots, so yes, it'll be upgraded at 10 am EST.


12z ATCF is still 135kt, what we saw here is an OFCL forecast point, not best track


Didn't notice that. In that case, 135 knots. A little baffled by that decision. 2016 definitely didn't have a Category 5 then.


There's been no decision yet.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1188 Postby kevin » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:10 am

Owasso wrote:https://i.postimg.cc/MpPHmB02/image.png

Another center pass.


Maybe the hurricane hunters read the thread that was asking for a third pass :wink: . Looks like we'll get a direct pass through the northern eyewall this time.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1189 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:11 am

tolakram wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
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12z ATCF is still 135kt, what we saw here is an OFCL forecast point, not best track


Didn't notice that. In that case, 135 knots. A little baffled by that decision. 2016 definitely didn't have a Category 5 then.


There's been no decision yet.


135 knot @ 12z ATCF is very much a decision. Whether-or-not they go with 140 knots at 10 am is the question. I'm inclined to think they will, but we'll see.

Obviously, semantics at the end of the day.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1190 Postby NDG » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:12 am

tolakram wrote:
chaser1 wrote:
tolakram wrote:L. 143 kt on the outbound trip.


And was that in fact a 9 NM eye?


C12, 12 miles


That's in nautical miles, so is 13.8 miles in diameter to be exact.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1191 Postby KWT » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:12 am

They are probably just waiting for recon to finish its mission to decide on initial intensity.

No point in having another situation like last night where its a cat-3 for 40 minutes and then data finds its strengthened rapidly. Better to wait and confirm whether its 140 or 145kts.

No way in hell is this 135kts anymore, more than eonugh data to justify an upgrade, several post season 5's have stayed/been upgraded for less.

As others have said, if this isn't a 5 now, then neither should Lorenzo or Matthew be a 5.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1192 Postby wx98 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:13 am

Recon did a loop in the eye and Cantore is on TWC talking about them going through “two” eyes and it having an EWRC :roll:
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1193 Postby GCANE » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:14 am

Massively dry eye.
30% RH.
Very little chance this will have an EWRC before landfall.

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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1194 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:15 am

Iota once again proving that a clear and warm eye matters a lot in regards to storm intensity.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1195 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:15 am

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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1196 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:16 am

Recon doing a south-north pass. I think it may capture the strongest wind this time.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1197 Postby Nancy Smar » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:17 am

31L IOTA 201116 1200 13.5N 81.6W ATL 140 917

AL, 31, 2020111612, , BEST, 0, 135N, 816W, 140, 917, HU,
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1198 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:17 am

Nancy Smar wrote:31L IOTA 201116 1200 13.5N 81.6W ATL 140 917

There it is... Unbelievable
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1199 Postby kevin » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:17 am

Extrapolated Sfc. Pressure 916.7 mbar on the third pass.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1200 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:18 am

Nancy Smar wrote:31L IOTA 201116 1200 13.5N 81.6W ATL 140 917


Alright, now it's real. To be a fly in the room at the NHC. Probably some heated debates, but at least they're following the standard they set during Matthew in 2016.
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