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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#381 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:28 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:Larry Cosgrove hasn’t said much but that he’s leaning more toward sleet with a little snow at end right now. Hopefully can get some deeper cold.

Our old friend Steve McCauley anticipates some heavy, wet flakes with some accumulations with this system. My confidence level just went way up!!!!! :froze: :froze:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#382 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:29 pm

Haha Brent you beat me to it!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#383 Postby Ntxw » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:35 pm

Brent wrote:I don't know if anyone saw Steve McCauley's post on Facebook but he seems to think someone around here will have a real snow

https://i.ibb.co/pR5nBK1/Screenshot-20201227-142311.png


Unless something drastic changes, I think winter storm watches may be warranted by Tuesday or Wednesday.

I don't think we will see significant upper flow changes but minor details highlighted by Bubba. I'm looking for the surface low to really deepen, and then we can maybe throw up the "B" word. I think the bigger concern may be that it gets so wrapped up the moisture plot will go too far east. There is usually a hard cutoff with such a wrapped up system...I mean the panhandle at this point may get nothing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#384 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:44 pm

Man this situation seems to be coming around, I was skeptical until I saw how the 12z suite came in. Haven’t seen this board light up like this in a long time, it’s refreshing. Still a fair amount of time for things to change but so far so good.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#385 Postby Brent » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:50 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Man this situation seems to be coming around, I was skeptical until I saw how the 12z suite came in. Haven’t seen this board light up like this in a long time, it’s refreshing. Still a fair amount of time for things to change but so far so good.


I've become such a huge skeptic as much as I want it to snow but I have to admit this one feels different this isn't like those flizzard setups of the past few years
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#386 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:16 pm

FWD chimes in

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#387 Postby Brent » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:17 pm



The AFD is still kind of meh but it's coming around considering they didn't even mention snow til yesterday

The models are in good agreement in wrapping precipitation around
the back side of this low across much of North and Central Texas
on Thursday, and have included high end chance PoPs in most areas.
MOS guidance from both the GFS and Euro actually depict
likely/categorical PoPs, and may have gone too low with
precipitation chances for Thursday. Uncertainty with the exact
track of the upper low is what held me back from going higher. Of
greater concern is the precipitation type. Kept mention of a
rain/snow mix across the western and northern counties for
Thursday, though believe (at this point anyway) that surface
temperatures will be too warm for accumulations. In leaning toward
the colder Euro solution, expanded the mention of snow into some
of our northeast, east central and southern zones as well on
Thursday. This may have been a bit aggressive this early, but
given the deepening trend of the Euro solution felt there was at
least some appreciable chance of a mix in these counties Thursday
morning. If the NBM guidance is to be believed, by afternoon, the
low level thermal profile may be a tad too warm in many places for
any snow to occur.
Needless to say, there is still tremendous
uncertainty with the evolution of this portion of the forecast,
and how the upper low develops over us will play a key role.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#388 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:20 pm

12z EPS for KDFW

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#389 Postby Haris » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:20 pm

Image EWX begins to discuss
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#390 Postby rwfromkansas » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:37 pm

What’s the NBM guidance mentioned? Never heard of that.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#391 Postby Texas Snow » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:40 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:What’s the NBM guidance mentioned? Never heard of that.


The National Blend of Models (NBM) is a nationally consistent and skillful suite of calibrated forecast guidance based on a blend of both NWS and non-NWS numerical weather prediction model data and post-processed model guidance. The goal of the NBM is to create a highly accurate, skillful and consistent starting point for the gridded forecast. This new way to produce NDFD grids will be helpful providing forecasters with a suite of information to use for their forecasts. The NBM is considered an important part of the efforts to evolve NWS capabilities to achieve a Weather-Ready Nation.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#392 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:08 pm

18z GFS is another step in the right direction with better northern stream s/w timing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#393 Postby Haris » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:09 pm

Nightmare is ICON run
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#394 Postby HockeyTx82 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:10 pm

Haris wrote:Nightmare is ICON run


What do you mean?
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#395 Postby Haris » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:15 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
Haris wrote:Nightmare is ICON run


What do you mean?


Low turns way too early to the north giving the snow only to the panhandle
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#396 Postby Texas Snowman » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:16 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:I don't know if anyone saw Steve McCauley's post on Facebook but he seems to think someone around here will have a real snow

https://i.ibb.co/pR5nBK1/Screenshot-20201227-142311.png


Unless something drastic changes, I think winter storm watches may be warranted by Tuesday or Wednesday.

I don't think we will see significant upper flow changes but minor details highlighted by Bubba. I'm looking for the surface low to really deepen, and then we can maybe throw up the "B" word. I think the bigger concern may be that it gets so wrapped up the moisture plot will go too far east. There is usually a hard cutoff with such a wrapped up system...I mean the panhandle at this point may get nothing.


The “B” word?!? :sled:

Expect a strong rebuttal from Wxman57 any moment now, in “3, 2, 1....” :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#397 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:34 pm

Gfs starting to look like the cmc with those accumulations on the 18z. Still too warm for me to be comfortable but trending in the right direction
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#398 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:35 pm

bubba hotep wrote:18z GFS is another step in the right direction with better northern stream s/w timing.


Now for the gratuitous snow map

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#399 Postby EnnisTx » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:36 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:I don't know if anyone saw Steve McCauley's post on Facebook but he seems to think someone around here will have a real snow

https://i.ibb.co/pR5nBK1/Screenshot-20201227-142311.png


Unless something drastic changes, I think winter storm watches may be warranted by Tuesday or Wednesday.

I don't think we will see significant upper flow changes but minor details highlighted by Bubba. I'm looking for the surface low to really deepen, and then we can maybe throw up the "B" word. I think the bigger concern may be that it gets so wrapped up the moisture plot will go too far east. There is usually a hard cutoff with such a wrapped up system...I mean the panhandle at this point may get nothing.


The “B” word?!? :sled:

Expect a strong rebuttal from Wxman57 any moment now, in “3, 2, 1....” :lol:


Let’s all hope he sticks with the tropical weather and doesn’t jinx us with the Heat
monger blues!
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#400 Postby Brent » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:44 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:18z GFS is another step in the right direction with better northern stream s/w timing.


Now for the gratuitous snow map

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2020122718/gfs_asnow_scus_22.png


Where do I sign up :froze:
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