Texas Winter 2020-2021

Winter Weather Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
User avatar
South Texas Storms
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 4227
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:28 am
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4361 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:38 pm

cajungal wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:
UTSARoadrunner4 wrote:What are y’all seeing for San Antonio/Bexar County? I’m guessing primarily ice, but no snow...


Looks like SA could see some light snowfall accumulations on Monday. Primary precipitation type looks to be sleet right now, possibly ending as snow.


Do you think it will be too hazardous to get to San Antonio from SE Louisiana? Have a hotel booked for the week. And we were planning to leave Monday morning at 6 a.m.


That commute will likely be a mess along IH-10 from Lafayette to San Antonio. We're probably going to be seeing some type of frozen precipitation on Monday across much of Texas and western Louisiana.
2 likes   

cstrunk
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 635
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:38 am
Location: Longview, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4362 Postby cstrunk » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:39 pm

I've cancelled my trip to Iowa this weekend. Looks way too nasty to be driving... and need to be home to keep pipes from freezing...

:froze: :cold:
2 likes   

Ralph's Weather
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3269
Age: 38
Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:55 am
Location: Lindale, TX
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4363 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:40 pm

Freezing fog up here in Prosper. 28 degrees. Roads mostly dry but I'm sure there are patches of black ice
0 likes   
Follow on Facebook at Ralph's Weather.

User avatar
gboudx
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 4080
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:39 pm
Location: Rockwall, Tx but from Harvey, La

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4364 Postby gboudx » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:41 pm

Tammie wrote:
orangeblood wrote:Precip type transition zones continue to shift southeast on latest NAM

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/total_precip_ptype_fourpanel/1612980000/1613109600-wrnjfvWiZ8Y.png


So is DFW going to be dry?


That graphic is showing sleet in DFW. If it doesn't melt, then the roads will be dry. :)
1 likes   

User avatar
Cerlin
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1182
Age: 23
Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:06 am
Location: Norman, OK

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4365 Postby Cerlin » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:42 pm

18z 3km NAM wants some frozen precipitation in WTX saturday morning.

Image
0 likes   
Graduate Meteorology Student at the University of Oklahoma!
All opinions independent of employers and the university.

BallsEleven
Tropical Wave
Tropical Wave
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:20 pm
Location: Southwest, LA

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4366 Postby BallsEleven » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:43 pm

cajungal wrote:I been trying to keep up with San Antonio weather myself. Have a family vacation planned and was supposed to leave Monday morning from SE Louisiana. Right now it does not look good. And if things don’t change by Sat night, May have to cancel.


As someone who lives in Lake Charles, if this event plays out like the models are showing I would not attempt to climb up the I-10 bridge here in sleet and freezing rain.

Your best bet is to wait until Friday or Saturday and make a decision then (assuming you can cancel your room).
3 likes   

weatherdude1108
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4228
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 pm
Location: Northwest Austin/Cedar Park, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4367 Postby weatherdude1108 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:46 pm

Ntxw wrote:Still 30F at DFW, sounds like a broken record.

It's not out of the question some areas may not get above freezing (even if so not by much) until next weekend (10 days) especially if there is meaningful snow cover. At this point if the forecasts verify, not much you can do to save the cold intolerant plants aside from bringing them in if you can. The stretch of cold will likely be too much and with the conditions possible Sun-Tues, hard to do anything about it. Mother nature reminding us killer freezes can still happen.


I went to Home Depot and Lowe's yesterday after work to get some freeze cloths, along with a roll of it, with some stakes and twine. Trying to protect my two 6-foot diameter Sagos, Ligustrum bush (made into a topiary), and a Texas Olive Tree (that has already been flowering and putting out new shoots of growth with the recent balmy spell). I told my wife I'm not sure how I'll be able to cover the Sagos. She said "Better than nothing." :) True that.
2 likes   
The preceding post is NOT an official forecast, and should not be used as such. It is only the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org. For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
TeamPlayersBlue
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3445
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:44 am
Location: Denver/Applewood, CO

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4368 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:47 pm

GFS output shows on Monday morning, 13F, snowing with a 20 MPH wind. I just cannot fathom this as a weather geek.
8 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
txtwister78
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1855
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:56 pm
Location: San Antonio

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4369 Postby txtwister78 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:48 pm

wxman22 wrote:
cajungal wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:
Looks like SA could see some light snowfall accumulations on Monday. Primary precipitation type looks to be sleet right now, possibly ending as snow.


Do you think it will be too hazardous to get to San Antonio from SE Louisiana? Have a hotel booked for the week. And we were planning to leave Monday morning at 6 a.m.


At the way things look now, yes it will be too dangerous, in fact i wouldn't be surprised if they end up having to close down parts of the interstates.


The city has an ice plan (I'm sure like most major metros). They will treat everything ahead of time, but once accidents begin they shut everything down. This may be a scenario though where surface streets/sidewalks become an issue as well.
2 likes   

User avatar
Iceresistance
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 9288
Age: 21
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:45 am
Location: Tecumseh, OK/Norman, OK

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4370 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:49 pm

Flurries outside right now, 20°F
0 likes   
Bill 2015 & Beta 2020

Winter 2020-2021 :cold:

All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted.

Winter posts are focused mainly for Oklahoma & Texas.

Take any of my forecasts with a grain of salt, refer to the NWS, SPC, and NHC for official information

Never say Never with weather! Because ANYTHING is possible!

User avatar
EnnisTx
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 896
Joined: Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:06 pm
Location: Albany, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4371 Postby EnnisTx » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:51 pm

Tammie wrote:
orangeblood wrote:Precip type transition zones continue to shift southeast on latest NAM

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-218-all/tx/total_precip_ptype_fourpanel/1612980000/1613109600-wrnjfvWiZ8Y.png


So is DFW going to be dry?


By shifting Southeast, that means the temperatures may be cold enough for frozen precipitation further South and East. DFW is not going to be dry.
3 likes   

gpsnowman
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3186
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:35 am
Location: Grand Prairie Tx

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4372 Postby gpsnowman » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:52 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:GFS output shows on Monday morning, 13F, snowing with a 20 MPH wind. I just cannot fathom this as a weather geek.

Right? A 13 degree day with blowing snow. It's the stuff that dreams are made of. I borrowed that from Carly Simon.
0 likes   

User avatar
Cerlin
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1182
Age: 23
Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:06 am
Location: Norman, OK

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4373 Postby Cerlin » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:54 pm

Image
:froze: It’s CRAZY seeing the NAM continue to show frozen precipitation every single day continuously like this. And, at the very end of the run, you can see the massive winter storm the globals have been showing setting up.
Image

:double: :double:
3 likes   
Graduate Meteorology Student at the University of Oklahoma!
All opinions independent of employers and the university.

User avatar
EnnisTx
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 896
Joined: Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:06 pm
Location: Albany, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4374 Postby EnnisTx » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:57 pm

txtwister78 wrote:
wxman22 wrote:
cajungal wrote:
Do you think it will be too hazardous to get to San Antonio from SE Louisiana? Have a hotel booked for the week. And we were planning to leave Monday morning at 6 a.m.


At the way things look now, yes it will be too dangerous, in fact i wouldn't be surprised if they end up having to close down parts of the interstates.


The city has an ice plan (I'm sure like most major metros). They will treat everything ahead of time, but once accidents begin they shut everything down. This may be a scenario though where surface streets/sidewalks become an issue as well.


The only bad thing about pre treatment is if it rains before the temps reach freezing or temperatures get cold enough to glaze the surface of the road it tends to wash the salt brine off the roads leading to treacherous driving conditions.
Last edited by EnnisTx on Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.
1 likes   

DeltaV
Tropical Low
Tropical Low
Posts: 14
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:56 pm

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4375 Postby DeltaV » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:57 pm

First post, but I've been lurking these threads for years. I can still hardly believe that we're finally getting a taste of winter in DFW. More like a 5 course meal at this point really.
14 likes   
Plano
Extreme weather enthusiast

User avatar
cajungal
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2330
Age: 49
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:34 pm
Location: Schriever, Louisiana (60 miles southwest of New Orleans)

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4376 Postby cajungal » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:59 pm

EnnisTx wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:
wxman22 wrote:
At the way things look now, yes it will be too dangerous, in fact i wouldn't be surprised if they end up having to close down parts of the interstates.


The city has an ice plan (I'm sure like most major metros). They will treat everything ahead of time, but once accidents begin they shut everything down. This may be a scenario though where surface streets/sidewalks become an issue as well.


The only bad thing about pre treatment is if it rains before the temps reach freezing or temperatures cold enough to glaze the surface of the road it tends to wash the salt brine off the roads leading to treacherous driving conditions.


If we delayed leaving til Tuesday morning would it make any difference? Looks warmer but may still not be enough time for it to melt
0 likes   

User avatar
Iceresistance
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 9288
Age: 21
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:45 am
Location: Tecumseh, OK/Norman, OK

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4377 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:01 pm

DeltaV wrote:First post, but I've been lurking these threads for years. I can still hardly believe that we're finally getting a taste of winter in DFW. More like a 5 course meal at this point really.

Welcome to the team! :D

And Oklahoma might get some of potental Blizzard too! :eek:
Last edited by Iceresistance on Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   
Bill 2015 & Beta 2020

Winter 2020-2021 :cold:

All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted.

Winter posts are focused mainly for Oklahoma & Texas.

Take any of my forecasts with a grain of salt, refer to the NWS, SPC, and NHC for official information

Never say Never with weather! Because ANYTHING is possible!

gpsnowman
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3186
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:35 am
Location: Grand Prairie Tx

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4378 Postby gpsnowman » Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:04 pm

DeltaV wrote:First post, but I've been lurking these threads for years. I can still hardly believe that we're finally getting a taste of winter in DFW. More like a 5 course meal at this point really.

Welcome DeltaV!! What city are you in? It is always nice to know where someone lives when taliking about specifics. You will love it here.
0 likes   

weatherdude1108
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4228
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 pm
Location: Northwest Austin/Cedar Park, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4379 Postby weatherdude1108 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:04 pm

EWX discussion

000
FXUS64 KEWX 102016
AFDEWX

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio TX
216 PM CST Wed Feb 10 2021

.SHORT TERM (Tonight through Thursday Night)...

...FREEZING RAIN POSSIBLE OVER PORTIONS OF THE HILL COUNTRY LATE
TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING...

At the sfc, a cold front continues to slowly encroach on our western
counties, with a wide spread in temperatures across the CWA this
afternoon. Temperatures range from the upper 30s in our northern
counties, to the 40s and 50s over the San Antonio Metro, to the 60s
out west over the Rio Grande. Aloft, a 500mb shortwave trough is
present to our west, over the Baja of California, which will dig
further south into northern Mexico overnight tonight, resulting in
divergence aloft over South-Central Texas. This will result in
increasing precipitation coverage as forcing for ascent becomes
maximized over the Hill Country and Southern Edwards Plateau
Thursday morning. Good moisture advection in the 925-850mb level
will result in increased coverage of showers and even some
thunderstorms overrunning the frontal boundary as it continues to
push further southward. At this time, strong/severe storms are not
expected.

With regard to precipitation type, hiRes guidance continues to
indicate a growing threat for freezing rain over the Hill Country,
as temperatures fall to or just below 32 degrees late tonight into
Thursday morning. Model soundings depict a very shallow arctic
airmass, with temperatures at the sfc below freezing, and warming to
above freezing just 1500 feet above the sfc, around the 925mb layer.
This type of vertical temperature profile is highly favorable for
freezing rain. Have gone ahead and issued a Winter Weather Advisory
for Williamson, Burnet, Llano, Gillespie, and Kerr Counties from 06Z-
18Z (early Thu AM-midday Thursday). A light glaze is possible,
especially on elevated surfaces, more specifically, bridges and
overpasses. Once temperatures can warm back above freezing, we will
see freezing rain transition back to liquid rain by midday. With
more convective showers across the southern half of the region, we
are expecting higher rainfall totals in those areas. In general,
rainfall totals in the 0.25-0.50 inch range can be expected across
the northern half of the area, and 0.50-1.00 inch over the southern
half of the region through Thursday night, before the precip moves
off to our east.

With regard to temperatures, it`s going to get cold, as the cold
front pushes through the entire region on Thursday morning,
temperatures will struggle to rebound, with only a few spots along
the Rio Grande managing to get into the lower 50s on Thursday. The
rest of the area will remain cold, in the 30s and 40s. North winds
will increase to 10-20 mph with gusts upwards of 25 mph during the
afternoon, leading a bit of a bite to the air. Wind chills will
hover in the 30s for most of the area on Thursday, with some spots
in the Hill Country feeling wind chills in the 20s at times.
Overcast skies will continue into Friday morning, as the entire area
starts out in the lower 30s. However, it`s going to get much colder
in the coming days.

&&

.LONG TERM (Friday through Wednesday)...

To start the long term period, we`ll be in a relative calm as a
southern stream trough axis down in Mexico continues to push slowly
east. There is a slight chance for some lingering morning showers
over the coastal Plains but most of the activity should be well out
over the gulf. High temperatures will range from the upper 30s to
the low to mid 50s, coolest northeast and warmest southwest.

Another shortwave is anticipated to approach on Saturday. This
system will bring with it some precipitation, mainly during the day,
and for the southern Edwards Plateau and portions of the Hill
Country this could come in the form of sleet or freezing rain. At
this time, model soundings are looking too warm in the saturated
layer for snow development and GEFS postage stamps/plumes also
support better chances for FZRA/IP. Meanwhile, 12Z ECMWF remains too
warm for winter precip to be much concern at all Saturday, so it`s
too early to pinpoint any accumulation potential. But at this time
QPF is anticipated to max out around 0.15", so even if the colder
end of guidance ends up verifying, impacts are expected to be
minimal.

The shortwave will exit Saturday night, and we should be mostly dry
through the day Sunday. Remaining seasonably cold, but the coldest
arctic air will still be held up to our north. Another trough
pushing in from the northwest will approach Sunday night into
Monday, and models continue to come into better agreement with the
timing of the accompanying arctic air as well as the precipitation
chances. Our confidence continues to gradually increase that we
could see both an impactful winter precipitation event and an
intrusion of the coldest airmass in several years.
Current thinking
is that isolated precipitation could begin Sunday evening, but the
heavier stuff will come in after midnight and exit to the east
sometime around midday Monday, Monday evening at the latest.

All precipitation types will be possible with this system across the
entirety of our coverage area and accumulations continue to be a
threat worth watching. Ensemble probabilities for accumulating snow
continue to increase across the northern half of the area, and
several inches of accumulating snow are currently well within the
realm of possibility across our northern tier of counties. Sleet and
freezing rain will be more likely than snow south and east. Again,
there`s not much more that can be said at this time about
accumulations and impacts, but we will continue to refine over the
coming days. Focus in the meantime will be on the winter precip
potential Thursday and Saturday.

Operational ECMWF has now come in much colder Monday into Tuesday,
more in line with the GFS although still a touch warmer. Although
it`s associated ensemble mean is a touch warmer still, confidence is
moderate to high that a sizable chunk of the area will remain below
freezing through the daytime on Monday. Lows will likely be well
into the teens Tuesday morning north and east and single digit lows
aren`t out of the question if clouds are able to clear out behind
the precipitation shield as low level ridging fills in. Worst case,
there are a few GEFs ensemble members that keep SAT below freezing
from Saturday evening to Wednesday morning. For reference, the
longest SAT has ever been below freezing was 4 days 13 hours in late
Jan-Early Feb 1951. I believe we are unlikely to eclipse that but it
could become closer than any of us want, not even this native
Wisconsinite and cold/snow lover.
There are some hints in the models
that the cold could be short-lived (i.e. 12Z ECMWF brings many spots
back into the 50s by Wednesday
) but currently that is unsupported by
ensemble data.

&&
Last edited by weatherdude1108 on Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2 likes   
The preceding post is NOT an official forecast, and should not be used as such. It is only the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org. For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
SoupBone
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3111
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:24 pm

Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4380 Postby SoupBone » Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:06 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
cajungal wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:
Looks like SA could see some light snowfall accumulations on Monday. Primary precipitation type looks to be sleet right now, possibly ending as snow.


Do you think it will be too hazardous to get to San Antonio from SE Louisiana? Have a hotel booked for the week. And we were planning to leave Monday morning at 6 a.m.


That commute will likely be a mess along IH-10 from Lafayette to San Antonio. We're probably going to be seeing some type of frozen precipitation on Monday across much of Texas and western Louisiana.



Where does the Weather Channel get their info? They're showing a 70% chance of between 1-3" of snow for Houston.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.


Return to “Winter Weather”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests