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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5361 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:34 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:
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rwfromkansas wrote:That ensemble mean. Wow. TX would be shut all week. I am surprised I didn’t see more at Home Depot. Probably a lot not taking it seriously yet or just getting the memo today.

The 18z GEFS Ensemble Mean?


Yep.


Mean 1:10 Snowfall

DFW: 12-16 inches
Central Oklahoma: 10-12 inches
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5362 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:34 pm

ColdFusion wrote:Is there anyone here that went thru the 1983 Texas cold snap in Dallas? Curious how the infrastructure held up back then? Did parts of the city lose running water and how bad the power outages might have been?


I went through the 1983 freeze in Denison. We got a big snowfall at the beginning of the event, then reinforcing fronts several times, and it ended up being 295 consecutive hours at or below freezing in Sherman and Denison. Never dipped below zero, but it rarely got above the low 20s either. A few mornings in single digits, a few afternoons in the teens.

Lake Texoma's huge Big Mineral Arm (north of Hagerman National Wildlife Refuge) ended up freezing from one side to the other and most of the coves across the lake were several inches thick. Only the main lake out near the islands stayed completely ice free. One of my great friends who is older and had an air boat, he would slide across the ice at Texoma to his duck hunting spots. Smaller lakes were so fronzen that you could walk across them.

Water mains broke in numerous places across Denison and I remember seeing city crews digging and trying to get them fixed, so yes, there was a loss of water from time to town depending on where the broken mains were. There was some power redistribution, which forced some non-essential businesses to shut down so hospitals and homes could have heat, but I don't remember any outages. Same thing happened in the Feb. 1989 freeze and the Dec. 1989 freeze. We had tons of potholes develop around town, the vegetation took a beating, etc.

The fish kill along the coast is one of the things I remember most (I'm an outdoor writer by trade) and the redfish and speckled trout stocks were nearly wiped out along most of the Texas coast.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5363 Postby BigD938 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:38 pm

89’ I was 9 but remember going to my grand parents house for their 50th wedding Anniversary (grandma had cancer and passed the next week) from Plano to krum (up by Denton) and there were massive snow drifts and at least a foot on the ground there. Always though I was young and kinda made it up in my head. My Dad recently found pictures from it. It looks like it may have been way more than I remember.
On the way home my Dad and his brother pull some dude out of a snow drift that complete covered the truck. Never seen anything like it since then.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5364 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:49 pm

US under cold siege. Our storm is bringing record snow for some areas around Seattle and Portland in the Pacific Northwest. High wind warnings and watches over the Great Basin and Desert Southwest. Heavy snow for the Southern Rockies. Bitter cold for the Northern Plains.

And of course history in the making for the Southern Plains.

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5365 Postby rwfromkansas » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:54 pm

Keller ISD hasn’t really said anything to staff.

But, they did say days off for weather are pure days off. I doubt that will last all week though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5366 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:54 pm

Snowing outside STILL, 15°F

And OKC has just reported 1 inch of snow on the ground . . .
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5367 Postby Haris » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:59 pm

18z euro :cold: :cold: :cold

6” in Austin !
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5368 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:06 pm

18z Euro shifting further south and east with heavier precip. Definitely a trend with models so far as the upper low deepens over the gulf

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5369 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:11 pm

Amazing to see the Euro ENS with 2 inch line now south of San Antonio

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5370 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:12 pm



The models are likely latching on to the real depth of cold air and strength of the system. Just a couple of days ago the trend was for storm 1 to be weaker and now it is trending stronger.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5371 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:22 pm

It's now my opinion that this will be more of a snow event than ice, even to the coast. I'm not saying that the onset won't be frz rain or sleet, but I think the changeover happens pretty quickly.

Forecasted temps are still too warm. I'm shaving 7-10 off the modeled temps. Yes, they are performing that badly.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5372 Postby Brent » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:23 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5373 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:23 pm

Ntxw wrote:


The models are likely latching on to the real depth of cold air and strength of the system. Just a couple of days ago the trend was for storm 1 to be weaker and now it is trending stronger.


Agreed. We saw that with the system on Thursday across Central Texas. Global models did not show much (temps too warm) but also had minimal precip. These systems are really digging into Mexico (better moisture to work with) as they eject out into the state
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5374 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:24 pm

We're now within range of the WPC probabilities which (from the last storm it seems) is heavily weighted by the NWS folks.

Note >2" odds for the next 3 days.

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5375 Postby UTSARoadrunner4 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:30 pm


You see, this is why I like the Euro. If I remember correctly I don’t think San Antonio got this much snow in 2017. I hope my job cancels it’s deliveries from tomorrow night to Tuesday morning. I don’t want to be sliding around in a delivery van full of groceries.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5376 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:34 pm

UTSARoadrunner4 wrote:

You see, this is why I like the Euro. If I remember correctly I don’t think San Antonio got this much snow in 2017. I hope my job cancels it’s deliveries from tomorrow night to Tuesday morning. I don’t want to be sliding around in a delivery van full of groceries.


The far NS of the city did much better for that event (3 inches). Airport received 2 (which is the official measuring/reporting station)
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5377 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:35 pm

Feels super weird to be digging out last year’s hurricane supplies for a winter storm.

(Was a passenger in a car during an ice storm once. Would not recommend.)
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5378 Postby ColdFusion » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:41 pm

UTSARoadrunner4 wrote:

You see, this is why I like the Euro. If I remember correctly I don’t think San Antonio got this much snow in 2017. I hope my job cancels it’s deliveries from tomorrow night to Tuesday morning. I don’t want to be sliding around in a delivery van full of groceries.



...dude i kinda need my groceries. :cheesy:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5379 Postby katheria » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:42 pm

wxman57 wrote:You folks way up there in the U.S. wanted winter weather. This event may be close to the big freezes of 1983 and 1989 - maybe not quite the duration of sub-freezing temps. Absolute low temp may be colder than the 7F recorded back then in Houston. Our water will be shut off near sunrise Monday and will likely be off all week. Faucets open. Running water will freeze, so letting them drip won't help much. Don't even think about driving anywhere next week. I see a multi-billion dollar catastrophe in the making.

Here is a model plot starting 6AM CST Sunday:

http://wxman57.com/images/Models12ZFeb12.JPG


We are shutting off water tomorrow evening to the house we are up in dallas area
I was around in 83... It was not a pretty sight..
1000s of pipes burst including 2 in the house i grew up in

A few days of inconvenience is better than a 10k plus insurance claim
Water in buckets for flushing johns
Bottled water for cooking drinking



.a friend in sachse had a pipe burst today that was in a outside wall..she does live in a older house thou..
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5380 Postby drred4 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:49 pm

It just made today to 31 here so below freezing all day 29 now. I have some final preps here in NE Brazos county and Brenham. For this. POLARCANE 2021 :eek:
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