2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#121 Postby JW-_- » Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:19 pm

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hires showing more lime cordial on the runs.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#122 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:37 pm

Models are definitely sniffing something up the EC or GOM. Fun times 8-)
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#123 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:13 am

00z CMC has solid GOM action in 7 days:
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00z GFS begins development in the WCaribbean around 5 days:
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#124 Postby JW-_- » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:03 am

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00z ens possible tracks and max gusts run atm.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#125 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:53 am

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#126 Postby xironman » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:43 am

Looks breezy.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#127 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:27 am

xironman wrote:Looks breezy.

https://i.imgur.com/tiV3I6E.png


That run will pull the Florida crew out of hibernation :P
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#128 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:23 am

HurricaneFrances04 wrote:
xironman wrote:Looks breezy.

https://i.imgur.com/tiV3I6E.png


That run will pull the Florida crew out of hibernation :P


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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#129 Postby Jr0d » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:45 am

Looking more and more likely something will form. The latest GFS suggests hurricane conditions maybe possible for the Florida Keys all the way up the West coast of the state. Fortunately it is a long way out, so prone to big errors. The Canadian is showing a possible hurricane going towards Louisiana....eagerly waiting on the latest EURO.

As someone said, the Florida members will be out of hibernation soon.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#130 Postby Cat5James » Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:01 am

South Floridian checking in… eagerly awaiting the 12Z model set.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#131 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:20 am

Some pretty aggressive Euro ensemble members. Some Cat 1/2.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#132 Postby SunnyThoughts » Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:02 am

NW Fla waking up...ugh, its too early for this!
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#133 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:11 am

I see the long range GFS is doing long range GFS things :D
It does look like there's a decent chance of something developing though so it'll need to be watched for sure
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#134 Postby Kohlecane » Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:13 am

Still a bit early but the MJO, roughly a week from now on any development with the GFS and slightly 5 to 6 days on the CMC very interested to see how the ensembles and euro perform in the next few runs as well. Also this year I am storing a lot of data on these models to see any decent guidance on them, we all know the GFS is fun to watch come Sept :roll: But hopefully after last year these models are getting better and better on picking up key atmospheric indicators.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#135 Postby aspen » Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:27 am

xironman wrote:Looks breezy.

https://i.imgur.com/tiV3I6E.png

The system starts consolidating from the CAG on Saturday/Sunday. The 00z CMC has a similar solution of a CAG system getting pulled north and becoming moderately strong in the Gulf before landfall, this time in Louisiana. The time frame of the CMC is also shorter, with some good vorticity seen at 90-144 hours.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#136 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:41 am

Cat5James wrote:South Floridian checking in… eagerly awaiting the 12Z model set.
That ridge has been locked in for 6 weeks thus our super droughty conditions on the east coast of sofla, of course that can change but persistence is the rule
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#137 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:47 am

Looks like the typical GFS-on-crack vs ECMWF negative Nancy scenario. I think a sheared, 50-55 knot TS in the Gulf is a good possibility.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#138 Postby StPeteMike » Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:03 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Looks like the typical GFS-on-crack vs ECMWF negative Nancy scenario. I think a sheared, 50-55 knot TS in the Gulf is a good possibility.

Fits with climatology. Though this could be a bunch of nothing to Cat 3 storm according the models. The CAG seems to be on overdrive though, so who knows what it will spit out.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#139 Postby Steve » Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:06 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Looks like the typical GFS-on-crack vs ECMWF negative Nancy scenario. I think a sheared, 50-55 knot TS in the Gulf is a good possibility.


Maybe a 1 - 2 basin punch if the EPAC progged low crosses over? Could be part of the mix, could be 2 systems. CMC says part of the mix as the low’s origins are EPAC. Maybe the wave in the Caribbean will be part of this too.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#140 Postby ncforecaster89 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:13 pm

StPeteMike wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Looks like the typical GFS-on-crack vs ECMWF negative Nancy scenario. I think a sheared, 50-55 knot TS in the Gulf is a good possibility.

Fits with climatology. Though this could be a bunch of nothing to Cat 3 storm according the models. The CAG seems to be on overdrive though, so who knows what it will spit out.


I will share that it isn’t too unusual, relatively speaking, for a CAG to spin up tropical development this time of year as you and many others have noted. The ensembles and the MJO also provide further support for such potential development. If it does materialize, there’s no skill involved at this range attempting to predict a specific track or intensity (as I’m sure you’re already aware).

Given it has been almost 35 years since the U.S. mainland has been hit by a hurricane in the month of June, it’s only a matter of precisely when it will occur again, and not a matter of if it will ultimately transpire. One can’t rule out a major hurricane, either, as Audrey of 1957 provides an analog of what’s possible...albeit highly unlikely during a given year.

Edit: to note that the aforementioned 35- year drought of a June U.S. landfall is the longest on record dating back to 1851. Is this the year that drought ends? We shall see.
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