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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#281 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:37 am

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Yellow Evan wrote:Per recon this is technically closed, so with that and the slow improvement in organization, I think this barely qualifies as a tropical cyclone.


I don't think that a west wind of a few mph within a broad area of light winds over 100 miles across really qualifies as a "well-defined" low-level center. I would call it a disturbance until it has a tight center. Doesn't matter as far as impacts. The squalls could produce some straight-line winds to 40 mph, and they'll produce 6-8 inches of rain regardless of how this system is classified. We'll know in a few minutes if the NHC has seen enough to call it a depression. Certainly, no evidence of TS winds from recon. I'm seeing a couple 25-30 kt winds in the squalls well NE of the weak swirls.


The NHC tends to be more lenient with a storm so close to land. Sloppy and ugly system, but my guess is the NHC will upgrade it at 11am based on the loosely closed LLC. Reminds me of TS Colin in 2016.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#282 Postby Pearl River » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:39 am

I had a good rain shower come thru about 20 minutes ago. It lasted a couple of minutes and dropped .17" here at the house.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#283 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:53 am

Still PTC Three
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#284 Postby lrak » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:19 am

What is going to happen to the leftover spin in the BOC? Is it too weak to survive?
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#285 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:34 am

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#286 Postby JW-_- » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:40 am

Product: Air Force High Density (HDOB) Message (URNT15 KNHC)
Transmitted: 18th day of the month at 15:34Z
Date: June 18, 2021
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF96-5302
Tropical Depression: Three (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 2


Little confusing why the mission heading is labeled as TD, but the current classification is PTC. Maybe one of you guys knows.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#287 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:14 am

Looking at visible satellite I have to question the NNE
movement. You can clearly see the center. It looks more
due north. IMO
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#288 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:14 am

Looks like reformation is occurring south of the Mouth of the Mississippi river..
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#289 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:15 am

Seems like recon isn't looking at the area to the north where the center is forming...and they are off by a lot.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#290 Postby tailgater » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:17 am

I Sure wish they would fly up there by 28N 91W. This eddy actually has a bit of convection near it’s center. Maybe they are enjoying the sunshine.:)
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#291 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:24 am

Based on radar out of N.O., the center is SSW of N.O.
You can clearly see the banding feeding into the center
of circulation.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#292 Postby Ubuntwo » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:26 am

Several elevated TS-force obs coming in now. Up to 31kt at 10m. Probably confined to squalls but soon enough there should be enough for a bump to 35kt.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#293 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:27 am

Stormcenter wrote:Based on radar out of N.O., the center is SSW of N.O.
You can clearly see the banding feeding into the center
of circulation.

True it’s pretty apparent there’s at least a mid level circulation. However at that distance it doesn’t say much about the surface. Will definitely need recon to verify.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#294 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:27 am

Stormcenter wrote:Based on radar out of N.O., the center is SSW of N.O.
You can clearly see the banding feeding into the center
of circulation.


It has nearly fully reformed.. a bouy circled in yellow has just switched to SSW winds. very likely a expanding LLC in there.

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#295 Postby USTropics » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:42 am

850mb (low-level) vorticity has continued to become better defined throughout the past 12 hours:
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Decent support now at the mid-upper levels as well:
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#296 Postby Nimbus » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:53 am

Ubuntwo wrote:Several elevated TS-force obs coming in now. Up to 31kt at 10m. Probably confined to squalls but soon enough there should be enough for a bump to 35kt.


So maybe they wanted to wait and declare a named storm to get the publics attention for the flooding alerts? Pretty serious rain banding for the usual low lying flood prone areas.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#297 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:57 am

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This is a tropical cyclone. A sloppy one at that but a tropical cyclone.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#298 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:41 pm

Time to call this a TD or TS. IMO
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#299 Postby tropicwatch » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:45 pm

Saying winds of 45mph but no upgrade.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#300 Postby MarioProtVI » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:52 pm

Recon seems to have found where the center reformed…albeit a bit too late since intermediate is already out. Maybe an update/amendment if they determine it’s enough?
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