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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#381 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:29 am

Maybe the first hurricane with this one?

An area of low pressure is expected to form south of Guatemala and
the Gulf of Tehuantepec by late Wednesday or Thursday. Some
development will be possible thereafter while the system moves
west-northwestward parallel to and just offshore the southern coast
of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.


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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#382 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:59 am

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12z GFS has a potent hurricane into Oaxaca.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#383 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:58 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 AM PDT Sun Jun 20 2021

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

An area of low pressure is expected to form south of Guatemala and
the Gulf of Tehuantepec by late Wednesday or Thursday. Some
development will be possible thereafter while the system moves
west-northwestward parallel to and just offshore the southern coast
of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#384 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:48 pm

Strongest run yet by ECMWF with a hurricane.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#385 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:12 pm

cycloneye wrote:Strongest run yet by ECMWF with a hurricane.

[url]https://i.imgur.com/hjZIbZP.jpg[url]

If it stays off the Mexican coast it should end up as a hurricane.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#386 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:27 pm

GFS has been hinting at a quick strike TC off the Mexican coast in the 8 day range, sorta similar to Dolores but could easily end up as 93E.
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Some support from the CMC:
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#387 Postby aspen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:41 pm

Kingarabian wrote:GFS has been hinting at a quick strike TC off the Mexican coast in the 8 day range, sorta similar to Dolores but could easily end up as 93E.
https://i.imgur.com/BLu32Vb.gif

Some support from the CMC:
https://i.imgur.com/0Nv6RvF.png

It’s also consistent with a developed or developing TC between Belize and Cuba, with the time frame gradually getting closer. That’s the CAG system I’ve been mentioning, and as you’ve pointed out in the models thread, it’s possible this ends up as an EPac disturbance or never develops at all.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#388 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:25 pm

18z GFS now has two systems S/SW of Mexico in 5 days:

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#389 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:44 pm

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18z GFS bringing the second system near Michoacán which seems phantom to me given how randomly it forms while being so close to another. It's a common problem with the GFS frankly.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#390 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:51 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:https://i.imgur.com/pH3o9N6.png

18z GFS bringing the second system near Jalisco which seems phantom to me given how randomly it forms while being so close to another. It's a common problem with the GFS frankly.


Yeah it is the happy hour GFS after all. Recall it showing something similar a few days ago. It's now attempting to develop a TW near 93W.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#391 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:26 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 PM PDT Sun Jun 20 2021

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

An area of low pressure is expected to form south of Guatemala and
the Gulf of Tehuantepec by late this week. Some development is
possible thereafter while the system moves west-northwestward
parallel to and just offshore the southern coast of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#392 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:30 pm

-CCKW's have been a theme so far. Despite the inactive MJO, TC continues to be favored over the WHEM. One more -CCKW on the way, really building around 160E and is currently in the CPAC (enhanced convection). Will be over the EPAC in less than a week and then eventually in the Atlantic. Could see multiple TC's from the EPAC to the Caribbean.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#393 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:09 pm

00z GFS continues with the two AOI's:
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00z GFS 0/30:
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#394 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:24 pm

Look at how well defined and strong those lower level westerlies are in association with the modeled twin systems:
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Really show the potential for enhanced convergence in this time period.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#395 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:31 am

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0z GFS, much like 18z, having a normal one by showing a second disturbance developing to its left once the 0/30 moves inland. I'll pay serious attention when other models do the same.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#396 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:25 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 PM PDT Sun Jun 20 2021

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

1. An area of low pressure is expected to form south of Guatemala and
the Gulf of Tehuantepec in a few days. Environmental conditions
appear conducive for development thereafter, and a tropical
depression could form by late week while the system moves west-
northwestward parallel to and just offshore of the southern coast
of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.

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No support from the other globals in regards to another system. Strong support for the 0/40.
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#397 Postby JW-_- » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:00 am

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Early days atm. Bom is seeing a possible future worthwhile system to track, without controversy. :ggreen:
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#398 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:33 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 AM PDT Mon Jun 21 2021

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

1. An area of low pressure is expected to form south of Guatemala and
the Gulf of Tehuantepec in a few days. Environmental conditions
appear conducive for gradual development thereafter, and a tropical
depression could form late this week or this weekend while the
system moves west-northwestward parallel to and just offshore of
the southern coast of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#399 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:48 pm

12z CMC now developing two areas, similar to the GFS.
12z Euro continues with developing only the 0/50 system, showing it obsorbing the other area the GFS and CMC are trying to develop.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#400 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:55 pm

Kingarabian wrote:12z CMC now developing two areas, similar to the GFS.
12z Euro continues with developing only the 0/50 system, showing it obsorbing the other area the GFS and CMC are trying to develop.

From the 12z suite, it looks like both areas have a good chance at development. 12z UKMET is predominately developing the 95W area compared to the other models.
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