ATL: ELSA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#561 Postby jconsor » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:33 am

One factor which favors a further south track is Elsa's recent tendency to track faster and south of model forecasts, and the short-term influence of northerly shear.

 https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1410574198221672454


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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#562 Postby toad strangler » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:39 am

jconsor wrote:One factor which favors a further south track is Elsa's recent tendency to track faster and south of model forecasts, and the short-term influence of northerly shear.

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1410574198221672454


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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#564 Postby Shell Mound » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:43 am

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#565 Postby robbielyn » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:46 am

I would like to know what kind of sheer or any dry will be in the gulf next week? Can anyone elaborate? Thanks. :)
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#567 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:03 am

center has tucked under the convection..
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#568 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:12 am

I see a center about 70 miles west of the convection.

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#569 Postby Shell Mound » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:12 am

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#570 Postby Shell Mound » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:15 am

Aric Dunn wrote:center has tucked under the convection..

 https://twitter.com/cyclonicwx/status/1410575857685520390


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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#571 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:15 am



He doesn't appear to know where the center is.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#572 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:18 am

12z Best Track has this position.

AL, 05, 2021070112, , BEST, 0, 99N, 502W, 35, 1006, TS
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#573 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:20 am

THe center has very clearly tucked under the canopy.

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#574 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:21 am

Shell Mound wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:center has tucked under the convection..

https://twitter.com/cyclonicwx/status/1410575857685520390

That's not the center in red...
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#575 Postby TallyTracker » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:25 am

Aric Dunn wrote:THe center has very clearly tucked under the canopy.

https://i.ibb.co/HxdXf35/RE-20210701-131727-1.gif

https://i.ibb.co/31CLMzW/Capture.png


I see the center due north of that on the northwest side of convective burst. Look closely at the low-level clouds beneath the cirrus canopy and you can see the circulation.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#576 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:25 am

TallyTracker wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:THe center has very clearly tucked under the canopy.

https://i.ibb.co/HxdXf35/RE-20210701-131727-1.gif

https://i.ibb.co/31CLMzW/Capture.png


I see the center due north of that on the northwest side of convective burst. Look closely at the low-level clouds beneath the cirrus canopy and you can see the circulation.


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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#577 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:28 am

Per NHC and what I can see on microwave pass the center appears to be around 9.9n 50.2w
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#578 Postby Shell Mound » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:30 am

TallyTracker wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:THe center has very clearly tucked under the canopy.

https://i.ibb.co/HxdXf35/RE-20210701-131727-1.gif

https://i.ibb.co/31CLMzW/Capture.png


I see the center due north of that on the northwest side of convective burst. Look closely at the low-level clouds beneath the cirrus canopy and you can see the circulation.

Actually, in this case I side with Aric. A close examination of the lowest cloud-layer supports his estimated position of a new LLC. The old primary vortex to the WNW of the convection appears to be dissipating, with a new primary vortex consolidating farther east, beneath the convection. This structural evolution, along with current organisation trends, is in line with the HWRF and GFS, both of which correctly indicate decreasing vertical wind shear through the remainder of the day and overnight.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#579 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:33 am

Center looks to be about 10.3N and 51W currently to me.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#580 Postby JetFuel_SE » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:37 am

wxman57 wrote:


He doesn't appear to know where the center is.

Implying that you do?
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