ATL: ELSA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#721 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:49 pm

Good bit of lightning popping off to the west of the LLC at the moment
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#722 Postby Weatherboy1 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:59 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Just the one named storm but the Atlantic looks busy

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/images/irng8.GIF


100% agree. If I didn't know the date, and looked at this full-Atlantic satellite shot, I'd guess sometime in late August!
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#723 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:11 pm

Convection slowly expanding and building to the north of the center now.. and some towers looking like they are starting in the sw quad.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#724 Postby Steve H. » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:13 pm

In some respects, I think Elsa looked better yesterday :wink:
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#725 Postby aspen » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:34 pm

The HWRF’s prediction for 18z seems spot on — a dry slot on the west side, spotty convection, and a displaced LLC/MLC. However, in order for the rest of the run to verify, Elsa must have moisture wrapped around the entire center by sunrise tomorrow and get vertically stacked by noon to early afternoon, no later than that. If we see a big convective burst over the center around 8pm-12am tonight, that would also make the rest of the HWRF run more probable.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#726 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:37 pm

On the wide-view Atlantic satellite, Elsa sure looks to be choking off the dry air to the NW. Also, she looks like she is getting a little more symmetrical.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/satlooper.php?region=atl&product=wv-mid
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#727 Postby hipshot » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:44 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Just the one named storm but the Atlantic looks busy

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/images/irng8.GIF

Look at all those waves coming off of Africa!!
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#728 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:49 pm

Elsa is rotating faster, also appears to be beginning to develops convection around the center and it appears to have stacked. She is going to intensify.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#729 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:52 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:Elsa is rotating faster, also appears to be beginning to develops convection around the center and it appears to have stacked. She is going to intensify.


Nope, the low is west of the convection
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#730 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:53 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:Elsa is rotating faster, also appears to be beginning to develops convection around the center and it appears to have stacked. She is going to intensify.

No. It's outpacing the MLC.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#731 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:54 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
InfernoFlameCat wrote:Elsa is rotating faster, also appears to be beginning to develops convection around the center and it appears to have stacked. She is going to intensify.


Nope, the low is west of the convection


It does look like Elsa may be starting to move into an area with less shear though. She is looking less flat on satellite compared to this morning.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#732 Postby DestinHurricane » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:55 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:Elsa is rotating faster, also appears to be beginning to develops convection around the center and it appears to have stacked. She is going to intensify.

Not stacked yet, but may be if we get some more convection to the NW after sunset.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#733 Postby NDG » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:03 pm

Compared to this morning Elsa has improved its satellite presentation with deep convection in the NE quadrant.

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#734 Postby Stormybajan » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:04 pm

She's looking a bit more symmetrical over the last hour or so..we will have wait another hour to see if gradual intensification has begun or is this just a fluke either way the outflow is impressive
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#735 Postby DestinHurricane » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:06 pm

It is nearing dmin right now, so we should see convection take off further after the sun goes down. I think once the sun goes down you will see lots of convection fire, as the HWRF has predicted.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#736 Postby TallahasseeMan » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:09 pm

All Elsa needs to do during this portion of her journey is not break open into a wave. The HWRF/HMON don't develop this thing deeply for another 18-24 hours.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#737 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:15 pm

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#738 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:18 pm

Sorry, almost stacked. Getting closer for sure though. Beautiful system
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#739 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:21 pm

Yesterday the LLC was displaced NE away from the deepest convection. Today it's having trouble sustaining deep convection near the center. Qualifies as a 2.0 on Dvorak.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#740 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:22 pm

Remember, all it takes is 24-36 hours of Elsa getting ideal conditions for it to become a cat 1-2. If it is mostly stacked once it gets to the islands, it can easily intensify.
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