ATL: ELSA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3461 Postby Nimbus » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:09 pm

Looks like the center might be right on the north shore of Cuba now on the west side of that convective plume. If so looks like the center might track closer to Key West than forecast? Really can't tell much from IR imagery so wait and check for a south wind at Key west later if recon doesn't make it out for a fix.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3462 Postby robbielyn » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:11 pm

so here in hernando county two counties north of clearwater we are getting thunder 15 mph wind gusts but the rain is cold and the air has dropped quite a bit. usually tropical systems produce warm raindrops
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3463 Postby Steve H. » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:13 pm

She looks formidable. Meaning she looks like she could strengthen.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3464 Postby cane5 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:13 pm

Cat5James wrote:After taking a closer look at the mid level/upper level steering, a stronger Elsa will go farther East then expected. I wouldnt be surprised to see Elsa get closer to SW FL (Naples) then currently forecast


I thought that too in the afternoon I saw that but it could be just drier air funneling into the system as was mentioned by the Weather Channel. The blowing of the cloud tops back appearing as if you are seeing almost a North East tilt.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3465 Postby StormPyrate » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:15 pm

robbielyn wrote:uh she looks to have jumped east she looks like she will hit the tip of florida. are we sure she is still going in the gulf? that would be funny cause they said the track is locked in. hmmm

It’s definitely off the official track to the east
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3466 Postby blp » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:16 pm

The track is going to have to move back east. This is going to make a close call to Key West...

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3467 Postby sikkar » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:16 pm

Coc nearing coast.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3468 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:18 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:Land friction can help disorganized storms actually become more structured with a better stacked circulation. We'll see if this allows Elsa to take off after she emerges over water or another false alarm.


Didn't we see this with Isaias last year after it crossed Hispaniola? Perhaps I'm thinking of another storm though.

It happens with quite a few storms. One that comes to mind last year was Laura.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3469 Postby cane5 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:18 pm

StormPyrate wrote:
robbielyn wrote:uh she looks to have jumped east she looks like she will hit the tip of florida. are we sure she is still going in the gulf? that would be funny cause they said the track is locked in. hmmm

It’s definitely off the official track to the east


I don’t think you are looking at what would be considered an eye your watching the cold cloud tops being influenced by the dry air which has built in all day.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3470 Postby psyclone » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:19 pm

One thing the NHC has on this storm is serious cred when it comes to track. Don't expect it to shift dramatically from what they've been projecting. It's been ticking west the past few cycles but in small steps. Perhaps it steps back a tad east but my money remains on only small adjustments.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3471 Postby StormPyrate » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:21 pm

cane5 wrote:
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robbielyn wrote:uh she looks to have jumped east she looks like she will hit the tip of florida. are we sure she is still going in the gulf? that would be funny cause they said the track is locked in. hmmm

It’s definitely off the official track to the east


I don’t think you are looking at what would be considered an eye your watching the cold cloud tops being influenced by the dry air which has built in all day.

Looking at radar
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3472 Postby cane5 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:24 pm

StormPyrate wrote:
cane5 wrote:
StormPyrate wrote:It’s definitely off the official track to the east


I don’t think you are looking at what would be considered an eye your watching the cold cloud tops being influenced by the dry air which has built in all day.

Looking at radar


So am I check the NHC SATELITTE SHOT IT GIVES YOU A LOOK AT THE HIGH CLOUD TOPS.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3473 Postby robbielyn » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:26 pm

psyclone wrote:One thing the NHC has on this storm is serious cred when it comes to track. Don't expect it to shift dramatically from what they've been projecting. It's been ticking west the past few cycles but in small steps. Perhaps it steps back a tad east but my money remains on only small adjustments.

i agree but at the same time coc’s hv been known to relocate under the convection or even been influenced by land so my statement does hv precedent.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3474 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:26 pm

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3475 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:27 pm

the actual LLC is here ... Image
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3476 Postby cane5 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:28 pm



looks if anything wnw…
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3477 Postby robbielyn » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:31 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:the actual LLC is here ... https://i.ibb.co/ysFcFh5/Capture.png

ok we’ll i was looking at visible and on there it looked east i couldn’t see the llc. but thank u for the clarification. i guess radar makes things more clear.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3478 Postby StormPyrate » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:32 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:the actual LLC is here ... https://i.ibb.co/ysFcFh5/Capture.png

So still far from stacked
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3479 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:33 pm

StormPyrate wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:the actual LLC is here ... https://i.ibb.co/ysFcFh5/Capture.png

So still far from stacked


not far at all. once off the coast a single burst could align them quickly.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3480 Postby psyclone » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:37 pm

robbielyn wrote:
psyclone wrote:One thing the NHC has on this storm is serious cred when it comes to track. Don't expect it to shift dramatically from what they've been projecting. It's been ticking west the past few cycles but in small steps. Perhaps it steps back a tad east but my money remains on only small adjustments.

i agree but at the same time coc’s hv been known to relocate under the convection or even been influenced by land so my statement does hv precedent.


I expect the 11 to tick back east to maybe a Levy county landfall instead of Dixie county. If that happens it's actually bad news for the west coast
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