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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#161 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:10 pm

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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#162 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:10 pm

aspen wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Probably very close to a major hurricane if not one already.
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Could see a special advisory if it keeps it up.

The eye is getting obscured by another convective burst near the core, but that seems to be a sign that it is continuing to intensify.

Yeah. It's going to be a solid looking donut if it can wrap around even colder convection. Looks like its going for more and just the B ring and warm eye requirement to get to minimal major hurricane status.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#163 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:13 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:[url]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733552978572869632/865350725176393768/received_533585514649245.png[url]


Seeing that this pass is an hour old... and Felicia's eye was warm then + this MW presentation + ADT climbing up to 5.6 before coming back down, that it's very possible minimal Cat.3 status was reached.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#164 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:50 pm

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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#165 Postby aspen » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:29 pm

Felicia reminds me a bit of early Irma: a compact (but not pinhole) Cat 2/3 with an almost annular-like appearance undergoing rapid intensification very early in its life.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#166 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:02 pm

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So close to a 5.5. Let's see if SAB does it :darrow:
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#167 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:07 pm

4.5

A. 06E (FELICIA)

B. 15/2330Z

C. 15.3N

D. 119.8W

E. ONE/GOES-W

F. T4.5/4.5

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...AN OW EYE THAT IS SURROUNDED BY LG AND EMBEDDED IN MG COLD
OVERCAST RESULTS IN A DT EQUAL TO 4.5 WITH NO EYE ADJUSTMENT MADE TO THE
DT. THE MET AND PT AGREE WITH THE DT BASED ON A SLOW DEVELOPMENT TREND
OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS. THE FT IS BASED ON THE DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#168 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:08 pm

That’s a T5.0. Don’t know what SAB is doing.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#169 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:13 pm

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 9.0
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 15 JUL 2021 Time : 235031 UTC
Lat : 15:19:47 N Lon : 119:50:23 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
5.3 / 965.3mb/ 97.2kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
5.3 5.6 5.6

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 14 km

Center Temp : +1.6C Cloud Region Temp : -61.8C

Scene Type : EYE

Subtropical Adjustment : OFF

Extratropical Adjustment : OFF

Positioning Method : ARCHER POSITIONING

Ocean Basin : EAST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : CKZ Method

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#170 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:13 pm

5.3 is probably pretty close to reality at this point

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----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 15 JUL 2021 Time : 235031 UTC
Lat : 15:19:47 N Lon : 119:50:23 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
5.3 / 965.3mb/ 97.2kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
5.3 5.6 5.6
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#171 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:17 pm

SATCON and AMSU are also running pretty low still.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#172 Postby aspen » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:23 pm

That eye is going to need to hit positive temps before either SATCON or manual SAB Dvorak numbers rise. 90-95 kt is probably a good estimate for Felicia’s current intensity, but if the eye clears, it’s an easy Cat 3.

Edit: oh wait the eye temps are nearly positive already.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#173 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:25 pm

aspen wrote:That eye is going to need to hit positive temps before either SATCON or manual SAB Dvorak numbers rise. 90-95 kt is probably a good estimate for Felicia’s current intensity, but if the eye clears, it’s an easy Cat 3.

Latest frame is near +2.0C.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#174 Postby aspen » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:26 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
aspen wrote:That eye is going to need to hit positive temps before either SATCON or manual SAB Dvorak numbers rise. 90-95 kt is probably a good estimate for Felicia’s current intensity, but if the eye clears, it’s an easy Cat 3.

Latest frame is near +2.0C.

I corrected my earlier post. This looks like a borderline major, although it would be a more confident call if the eye maintains positive temps and the deepest convection finally wraps around the entire core.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#175 Postby Stormybajan » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:29 pm

I smell a major Hurricane Felicia upgrade coming soon..
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#176 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:37 pm

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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#177 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:43 pm

Eye temp uo to +11.6C

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ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
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Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 16 JUL 2021 Time : 002031 UTC
Lat : 15:22:48 N Lon : 119:54:36 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
5.3 / 965.3mb/ 97.2kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
5.3 5.7 5.7

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 15 km

Center Temp : +11.6C Cloud Region Temp : -59.9C

Scene Type : EYE

Subtropical Adjustment : OFF

Extratropical Adjustment : OFF
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#178 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:51 pm

The eye is much clearer now but it looks like some dry air is trying to get in there. We'll see if it's able to mix it out without any disruption.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#179 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:53 pm

Stormybajan wrote:I smell a major Hurricane Felicia upgrade coming soon..


Not likely untill Dvorak numbers from SAB/TAFB rise.
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Re: EPAC: FELICIA - Hurricane

#180 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:59 pm

This is not a super intense eyewall but its well defined and found in EPAC major hurricanes that are surrounded by a drier air mass.
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