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#2101 Postby Category5Kaiju » Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:44 pm

Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/mDX8V7n.jpg
JB getting fired up for August.


Ah yes, classic Bastardi. 8-)
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#2102 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:13 pm

Whaaaaaaaaa!? :eek: :eek: :eek:

I have not seen details yet.

 https://twitter.com/bigjoebastardi/status/1422290634166218762


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#2103 Postby AtlanticWind » Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:58 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:
Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/mDX8V7n.jpg
JB getting fired up for August.


Ah yes, classic Bastardi. 8-)


He is a hype machine.
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#2104 Postby USTropics » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:28 pm

SFLcane wrote:Whaaaaaaaaa!? :eek: :eek: :eek:

I have not seen details yet.

https://twitter.com/bigjoebastardi/status/1422290634166218762


He is using the graphics found here - https://apps.ecmwf.int/webapps/opencharts/products/mofc_multi_tcyc_family_frequency?base_time=202108020000&parameter=Accumulated%20cyclone%20energy&valid_time=202108080000

This was the forecast issued today (08/02):
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This was the forecast from 07/29:
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#2105 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:40 pm



This guy, :roll: i still trying to find that dramatic increase in ace?
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#2106 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:40 pm

I’m getting doubtful of CSU and TSR’s July forecasts for 20 named storms. It is possible, but now a lot less likely due to the huge break in activity. To hit 20 NS, we would need to see 4 in August, 8 in September (the second highest on record), and 3 in the rest of the season. This could also be accomplished with a very backloaded season like 2020, although that would probably be the worst scenario since late-season storms would likely form closer to land.

20 NS isn’t impossible, but I’d put it at the upper limit of possible outcomes. 15 NS would be the lower limit. We’ll have to wait and see how bonkers peak season gets.
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#2107 Postby AlphaToOmega » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:42 pm

aspen wrote:I’m getting doubtful of CSU and TSR’s July forecasts for 20 named storms. It is possible, but now a lot less likely due to the huge break in activity. To hit 20 NS, we would need to see 4 in August, 8 in September (the second highest on record), and 3 in the rest of the season. This could also be accomplished with a very backloaded season like 2020, although that would probably be the worst scenario since late-season storms would likely form closer to land.

20 NS isn’t impossible, but I’d put it at the upper limit of possible outcomes. 15 NS would be the lower limit. We’ll have to wait and see how bonkers peak season gets.


20 NS is still possible. August looks like it will be very active, and with a La Nina the season is likely to be back-loaded.
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#2108 Postby Category5Kaiju » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:45 pm

aspen wrote:I’m getting doubtful of CSU and TSR’s July forecasts for 20 named storms. It is possible, but now a lot less likely due to the huge break in activity. To hit 20 NS, we would need to see 4 in August, 8 in September (the second highest on record), and 3 in the rest of the season. This could also be accomplished with a very backloaded season like 2020, although that would probably be the worst scenario since late-season storms would likely form closer to land.

20 NS isn’t impossible, but I’d put it at the upper limit of possible outcomes. 15 NS would be the lower limit. We’ll have to wait and see how bonkers peak season gets.


I mean, if we get 4 NSs in August, 6 in September, 4 in October, and 1 in November, that'll do the trick (with a weak La Nina likely to come to fruition I am not discounting activity dragging on late season). I personally think that's quite possible unless we get some major break during the middle of the season, which is something we'll have to see once the season gets rolling.

Now a 30 NS storm season imho is very unlikely at this point. But with us all coming out of 2020, it's so hard to believe that even getting an 18-20 NS season (which would be within the top 5 most active seasons) sounds inactive.
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#2109 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:53 pm

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#2110 Postby AlphaToOmega » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:57 pm

I am curious: what conditions must be present for post-season activity? There was a lot of post-season activity in the 2000s, but there has not been post-season activity since 2013. What happened?
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#2111 Postby abajan » Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:41 pm

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#2112 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:53 pm



We’re can I find this data? If true we could be in for a longgggg season.
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#2113 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:57 pm

SFLcane wrote:


We’re can I find this data? If true we could be in for a longgggg season.

It'll come out on the 5th
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#2114 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:58 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
SFLcane wrote:


We’re can I find this data? If true we could be in for a longgggg season.

It'll come out on the 5th


So he has this data already?
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#2115 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:02 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
We’re can I find this data? If true we could be in for a longgggg season.

It'll come out on the 5th


So he has this data already?


Yes it's possible. The big time subscribers are always given first priority.
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#2116 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:30 pm

You don't have to be big time, you just have to pay up. :)
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#2117 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:42 pm

tolakram wrote:You don't have to be big time, you just have to pay up. :)

I mean those guys who pay thousands to ECMWF in order to sell subscriptions to regular users :lol:
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#2118 Postby Deshaunrob17 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:21 pm

Gfs finally patting down on activity in the EPAC (slowly but surely) . When that happens, let’s hope systems stay away from the Caribbean (please) ...

My wishful thinking is we get a 2010
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#2119 Postby Stormybajan » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:53 pm

Deshaunrob17 wrote:Gfs finally patting down on activity in the EPAC (slowly but surely) . When that happens, let’s hope systems stay away from the Caribbean (please) ...

My wishful thinking is we get a 2010

Yeah until drunk uncle Hurricane Tomas rolls up October 30th! late to the party, and blasts the lesser antilies as a cat 1! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#2120 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:59 pm



Correct me if I am getting my years mixed up, but it seems like there was a huge SAL outbreak in August right before Harvey and Irma developed in 2017.
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