ATL: FRED - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1301 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:17 pm

NDG wrote:BTW, both recons are finding the LLC a little further SE than what it was estimated at 5 PM.


We’re exactly?
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1302 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:18 pm

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wxman57 wrote:The surface center appears to be west of the convection. Recon is finding a center aloft to the east. Still a good bit of shear. That 170 kt SFMR might be questionable.

Might be”?

What could even cause an erronous SFMR reading that high?

The fastest RI ever seen 8-)
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1303 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:18 pm

Geez, didn't expect this much re-organization this soon.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1304 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:18 pm

SFLcane wrote:
NDG wrote:BTW, both recons are finding the LLC a little further SE than what it was estimated at 5 PM.


We’re exactly?

Its at 21.3 and 75.0 at 8pm
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1305 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:22 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Geez, didn't expect this much re-organization this soon.

I didnt either, still dont expect too much but always worry about a small storm
spinning up quickly in this area.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1306 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:23 pm

Winds seems to be increasing, at least the Recon flight level readings compared to this AM.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1307 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:27 pm

Waiting to see models tonight, I know globals can miss a spin up on a small system.
Hwrf and Hmon should pick up on this if it is going to wrap up.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1308 Postby Nimbus » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:27 pm

There isn't a huge pressure gradient yet so its freer to follow the convection.
That might make a little difference in track until we get a 10 mb drop again.
I think that ULL is going to be long gone by the time this gets near the Keys.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1309 Postby johngaltfla » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:31 pm

Once the ULL pulls out, Fred won't be depressed much longer.

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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1310 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:32 pm

Nimbus wrote:There isn't a huge pressure gradient yet so its freer to follow the convection.
That might make a little difference in track until we get a 10 mb drop again.
I think that ULL is going to be long gone by the time this gets near the Keys.


I see a little shear right now but not too bad.
Slower movement that seems to have started could
help it avoid shear as it gets closer to the keys
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1311 Postby Blown Away » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:35 pm

Tropical systems are so amazing, crazy how Fred was decapitated and coming back strong all within 24 hours...
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1312 Postby BobHarlem » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:37 pm

Very interesting... (Arte Johnson voice)
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1313 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:40 pm

I could see this regaining Tropical Storm strength by friday morning if maintains convection overnight.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1314 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:41 pm

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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1315 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:41 pm

BobHarlem wrote:Very interesting... (Arte Johnson voice)

Showing your age there 8-) 8-) but I remember that refrence too.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1316 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:45 pm

Strongest winds still far from the center
Needs to tighten up a lot
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1317 Postby sma10 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:47 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:
BobHarlem wrote:Very interesting... (Arte Johnson voice)

Showing your age there 8-) 8-) but I remember that refrence too.


Just as long as you go easy on any Ruth Buzzi references
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1318 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:50 pm

One negative note,no sign of banding yet.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1319 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:53 pm

so fred not dead yet we cannot take bone out for fred so south fl may get bad weather and expect what we saw early today you think if get better that their may need put watch for south east fl coast???
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Re: ATL: FRED - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1320 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:53 pm

Was looking at Fred and 95L. Is this the year of the tiny storm?
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