2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#641 Postby lsuhurricane » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:40 pm

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lsuhurricane wrote:Some decent agreement between the above CMC storm at 240 hours and a few 12z Euro Ensembles.

All appear to be headed due west with stout ridging their north. Would certainly match climatology for that last week of August.

12z Euro ens hasn't updated yet.


It has, I'm watching it roll out real-time on a paid site.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#642 Postby StormPyrate » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:37 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
lsuhurricane wrote:Some decent agreement between the above CMC storm at 240 hours and a few 12z Euro Ensembles.

All appear to be headed due west with stout ridging their north. Would certainly match climatology for that last week of August.

12z Euro ens hasn't updated yet.


It has, I'm watching it roll out real-time on a paid site.

https://i.ibb.co/JqdwTtP/Screen-Shot-2021-08-16-at-2-43-22-PM.png

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#643 Postby IcyTundra » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:15 pm

This is out in GFS fantasyland but the 18Z GFS shows a weak TS making landfall along the Central Texas coast Saturday, August 28th.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#644 Postby lsuhurricane » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:17 pm

IcyTundra wrote:This is out in GFS fantasyland but the 18Z GFS shows a weak TS making landfall along the Central Texas coast Saturday, August 28th.


You can roughly trace this back to the same wave that will be traversing through the entire Atlantic. Same wave that generated feedback for the above Euro ensembles
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#645 Postby SoupBone » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:20 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:
IcyTundra wrote:This is out in GFS fantasyland but the 18Z GFS shows a weak TS making landfall along the Central Texas coast Saturday, August 28th.


You can roughly trace this back to the same wave that will be traversing through the entire Atlantic. Same wave that generated feedback for the above Euro ensembles



Yeah, still lots of things can change by then as we all know. Can we fast forward to October yet?
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#646 Postby kevin » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:40 am

While none get very strong, the euro ensemble does show potential for MDR systems over the next 10 days.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#647 Postby otowntiger » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:42 am

kevin wrote:While none get very strong, the euro ensemble does show potential for MDR systems over the next 10 days.

https://i.imgur.com/MQLMUTV.png
interestingly it looks like a good number of those ensemble runs want to re-curve. I thought the Bermuda High was looking extra stout thus season?
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#648 Postby AlphaToOmega » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:52 am

otowntiger wrote:
kevin wrote:While none get very strong, the euro ensemble does show potential for MDR systems over the next 10 days.

https://i.imgur.com/MQLMUTV.png
interestingly it looks like a good number of those ensemble runs want to re-curve. I thought the Bermuda High was looking extra stout thus season?


Henri might be creating a weakness in the Azores High.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#649 Postby Teban54 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:57 am

AlphaToOmega wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
kevin wrote:While none get very strong, the euro ensemble does show potential for MDR systems over the next 10 days.

https://i.imgur.com/MQLMUTV.png
interestingly it looks like a good number of those ensemble runs want to re-curve. I thought the Bermuda High was looking extra stout thus season?


Henri might be creating a weakness in the Azores High.


In other words, if the ridge builds back in after Henri is gone... Watch out.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#650 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:21 am

Is that a CAG system the GFS wants to spin up and head towards Texas? It sure looks that way to me.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#651 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:41 pm

toad strangler wrote:gatorcane is a wee bit bullish about a land wave. Uh Oh :eek:


Looks like I was a wee too bullish. Even the CMC no longer develops. Conditions appear hostile between the Lesser Antilles and Africa still.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#652 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:14 pm

gatorcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:gatorcane is a wee bit bullish about a land wave. Uh Oh :eek:


Looks like I was a wee too bullish. Even the CMC no longer develops. Conditions appear hostile between the Lesser Antilles and Africa still.


These waves may not do much until they move further west.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#653 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:42 pm

Just when is said that above, the Euro develops :lol:

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#654 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:48 pm

gatorcane wrote:Just when is said that above, the Euro develops :lol:

https://i.postimg.cc/XqPyGNsC/ecmwf-uv850-vort-eatl-fh0-168.gif

Looks like a break in the Ridge sends this OTS.

Seems once Henri loops around Bermuda, it will be leaving a bit of energy in the central atlantic that creates a small break allowing it to move away.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#655 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:47 pm

Euro seems to get us to at least 10 storms by September.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#656 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:07 pm

captainbarbossa19 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:gatorcane is a wee bit bullish about a land wave. Uh Oh :eek:


Looks like I was a wee too bullish. Even the CMC no longer develops. Conditions appear hostile between the Lesser Antilles and Africa still.


These waves may not do much until they move further west.


That’ll be the case for the next few weeks till the MJO is favorable for development further east.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#657 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:28 pm

12z Euro has Ida form in the MDR and recurve around 50W, and later Julian going through the Shredder but surviving into the Bahamas. The ensembles really like Ida and kinda support the possibility of other MDR/AEW storms in the next 10 days.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#658 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:37 pm

aspen wrote:12z Euro has Ida form in the MDR and recurve around 50W, and later Julian going through the Shredder but surviving into the Bahamas. The ensembles really like Ida and kinda support the possibility of other MDR/AEW storms in the next 10 days.


Right. Some ensembles show the next system passing north of the Greater Antilles unlike the operational run.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#659 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:22 pm

gatorcane wrote:Just when is said that above, the Euro develops :lol:

https://i.postimg.cc/XqPyGNsC/ecmwf-uv850-vort-eatl-fh0-168.gif


The GFS shows dry air from the SAL outbreak wrapping into the wave and so it does not develop. I am not sure why the Euro shows it intensifying when it turns north into drier air. I am thinking that the wave behind this one might end up being Ida.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#660 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:12 pm

GFS invents a new storm. Not sure I believe this, but the EUro has an echo as well, just off the east coast instead.

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