2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#701 Postby Stormybajan » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:43 pm

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lsuhurricane wrote:12z EPS goes berserk with development after 196hrs in many areas. We've been warned......

https://i.ibb.co/j8DpbJY/14-km-EPS-Global-Cyclones-Tropical-Atlantic-Ens-MSLP-Spaghettios.gif


I can't see your image. I wonder if it's being blocked by work.

Showing for me
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#702 Postby aspen » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:59 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
lsuhurricane wrote:12z EPS goes berserk with development after 196hrs in many areas. We've been warned......

https://i.ibb.co/j8DpbJY/14-km-EPS-Global-Cyclones-Tropical-Atlantic-Ens-MSLP-Spaghettios.gif


I can't see your image. I wonder if it's being blocked by work.

https://i.imgur.com/RUtD4Iu.gif
Not the same but it gets the idea across.

That first MDR system starts showing up in only 4 days. If other models jump on board soon, we’ll probably see a lemon this weekend.

Crazy that there’s model evidence for Ida, Julian, Kate, and Larry in the next two weeks — two possible MDR systems, a possible subtropics system, and a Gulf/CAG system.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#703 Postby aspen » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:46 pm

aspen wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
I can't see your image. I wonder if it's being blocked by work.

https://i.imgur.com/RUtD4Iu.gif
Not the same but it gets the idea across.

That first MDR system starts showing up in only 4 days. If other models jump on board soon, we’ll probably see a lemon this weekend.

Or tonight, it seems. The NHC just tagged it with 0/20 odds.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#704 Postby Teban54 » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:26 pm

aspen wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
I can't see your image. I wonder if it's being blocked by work.

https://i.imgur.com/RUtD4Iu.gif
Not the same but it gets the idea across.

That first MDR system starts showing up in only 4 days. If other models jump on board soon, we’ll probably see a lemon this weekend.

Crazy that there’s model evidence for Ida, Julian, Kate, and Larry in the next two weeks — two possible MDR systems, a possible subtropics system, and a Gulf/CAG system.


Fun fact: The names Larry through Peter have only been used once (2003), while Rose through Wanda have never been used. If the EPS forecasts verify, even just partially, 2021 looks to be well on track of reaching Rose and beyond.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#705 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:20 pm

Teban54 wrote:
aspen wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:https://i.imgur.com/RUtD4Iu.gif
Not the same but it gets the idea across.

That first MDR system starts showing up in only 4 days. If other models jump on board soon, we’ll probably see a lemon this weekend.

Crazy that there’s model evidence for Ida, Julian, Kate, and Larry in the next two weeks — two possible MDR systems, a possible subtropics system, and a Gulf/CAG system.


Fun fact: The names Larry through Peter have only been used once (2003), while Rose through Wanda have never been used. If the EPS forecasts verify, even just partially, 2021 looks to be well on track of reaching Rose and beyond.


Who knows if we will reach Adria :D ?
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#706 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:09 am

Decent support from the EPS in the western Gulf in about 8-10 days:

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#707 Postby SconnieCane » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:21 am

Cpv17 wrote:Decent support from the EPS in the western Gulf in about 8-10 days:

https://www.weathernerds.org/models/v3.0/ecens/sessions/38210920.gif?0.5372085401054739


Grace Pt. 2? Yuck. Saw this with Eta and Iota last year, not to mention the repeated Louisiana hits.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#708 Postby Teban54 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:24 am

SconnieCane wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Decent support from the EPS in the western Gulf in about 8-10 days:

https://www.weathernerds.org/models/v3.0/ecens/sessions/38210920.gif?0.5372085401054739


Grace Pt. 2? Yuck. Saw this with Eta and Iota last year, not to mention the repeated Louisiana hits.


Most of these members seem to be heading north or NW near US-Mexico border unlike Grace. Of course track and intensity will change when it's 240 hours out.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#709 Postby SconnieCane » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:35 am

Teban54 wrote:
SconnieCane wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Decent support from the EPS in the western Gulf in about 8-10 days:

https://www.weathernerds.org/models/v3.0/ecens/sessions/38210920.gif?0.5372085401054739


Grace Pt. 2? Yuck. Saw this with Eta and Iota last year, not to mention the repeated Louisiana hits.


Most of these members seem to be heading north or NW near US-Mexico border unlike Grace. Of course track and intensity will change when it's 240 hours out.


My bad, I was looking at the early part of the animation, which is actually for Grace.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#710 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:19 am

It’s something to see the gfs with nada across the main development and most of the basin for that matter during mid August.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#711 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:28 am

SFLcane wrote:It’s something to see the gfs with nada across the main development and most of the basin for that matter during mid August.


The GFS shows a hostile MDR over the next week at least:

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#712 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:28 am

SFLcane wrote:It’s something to see the gfs with nada across the main development and most of the basin for that matter during mid August.


It’s not surprising honestly. That part of the basin will be more favorable in a few more weeks. Right now it’s the western part of the basin that’s favorable.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#713 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:30 am

gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:It’s something to see the gfs with nada across the main development and most of the basin for that matter during mid August.


The GFS shows a hostile MDR over the next week at least:

https://i.postimg.cc/HsmLhfmG/gfs-shear-atl-29.png


When does the GFS not show that? You post that same map all the time.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#714 Postby SoupBone » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:40 am

Cpv17 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:It’s something to see the gfs with nada across the main development and most of the basin for that matter during mid August.


The GFS shows a hostile MDR over the next week at least:

https://i.postimg.cc/HsmLhfmG/gfs-shear-atl-29.png


When does the GFS not show that? You post that same map all the time.



What's the issue with him posting that? Would it be any different than posting phantom GFS spinups all the time? Or am I reading your post incorrectly?

That CAG system that the GFS was showing hasn't been there in several runs. Almost to the point where that other system should show up though in this run.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#715 Postby SoupBone » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:14 pm

So the latest GFS sends that system OTS or an east coast system, at least ATM.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#716 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:41 pm

Looks like a pretty good signal from the GEFS on WCAR / WGOM development. The CMC Op also shows development:

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#717 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:57 pm

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12z GFS... Hours 294-384... GFS consistent with development in the Caribbean... Still fantasy as far as track...
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#718 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:59 pm

gatorcane wrote:Looks like a pretty good signal from the GEFS on WCAR / WGOM development. The CMC Op also shows development:

https://i.postimg.cc/0yFzH0qM/gfs-ememb-lowlocs-watl-fh168-240.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/jj6JwnGD/gem-mslp-pcpn-watl-fh138-240.gif


Yay. A strong signal right towards my area. :double:
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#719 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:22 pm

SoupBone wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
The GFS shows a hostile MDR over the next week at least:

https://i.postimg.cc/HsmLhfmG/gfs-shear-atl-29.png


When does the GFS not show that? You post that same map all the time.



What's the issue with him posting that? Would it be any different than posting phantom GFS spinups all the time? Or am I reading your post incorrectly?

That CAG system that the GFS was showing hasn't been there in several runs. Almost to the point where that other system should show up though in this run.


I mean there’s nothing wrong with it. I was just stating that it seems like the GFS is almost always showing unfavorable conditions for development. The GFS op still has it btw. The energy just develops too close to the shoreline and crashes it into Mexico but the ensembles paint a different picture.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#720 Postby CFLHurricane » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:30 pm

captainbarbossa19 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Looks like a pretty good signal from the GEFS on WCAR / WGOM development. The CMC Op also shows development:

https://i.postimg.cc/0yFzH0qM/gfs-ememb-lowlocs-watl-fh168-240.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/jj6JwnGD/gem-mslp-pcpn-watl-fh138-240.gif


Yay. A strong signal right towards my area. :double:


Florida will gladly take it off your hands so we don’t have to wait for one of the MDR systems being forecasted for mid-September.
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