Tropical Wave over the Central Caribbean (Is Invest 99L)

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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#121 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:50 am

CMC is very close to the latest Euro in location, and would also dump a lot of rain over central Texas.

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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#122 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:55 am

The 12z GFS, CMC, and ICON are all targeting the southern Texas coast. GFS has multiple competing vortices, while the CMC and ICON both quickly favor the northern lobe by the time it’s in the Yucatán Channel. The rate of organization and where the LLC tries to consolidate will mean the difference between a sloppy TS and a potent hurricane at landfall.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#123 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:58 am

12Z CMC has a pretty large windfield power outages would be widespread even quite a bit to the east of where it makes landfall.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#124 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:59 am

aspen wrote:The 12z GFS, CMC, and ICON are all targeting the southern Texas coast. GFS has multiple competing vortices, while the CMC and ICON both quickly favor the northern lobe by the time it’s in the Yucatán Channel. The rate of organization and where the LLC tries to consolidate will mean the difference between a sloppy TS and a potent hurricane at landfall.


I think this is why wxman commented, somewhat cryptic, this morning about not ruling out Texas. That angle of approach too will determine whether Houston sees a bunch of rain versus San Antonio. Most of the recent runs favor a San Antonio rainfall event after landfall...for now.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#125 Postby Rgv20 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:00 pm

12zUKMET Text Output...Has a TC South East of Brownsville by Monday morning. Looks like all the major models are increasing the odds of a TC making landfall in Texas early next week.

NEW TROPICAL STORM FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 114 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+114 : 20.0N 91.8W

VERIFYING TIME POSITION STRENGTH TENDENCY
-------------- -------- -------- --------
12UTC 29.08.2021 20.8N 92.6W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE
00UTC 30.08.2021 22.8N 94.9W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE
12UTC 30.08.2021 23.9N 96.6W MODERATE INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#126 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:02 pm

Rgv20 wrote:12zUKMET Text Output...Has a TC South East of Brownsville by Monday morning. Looks like all the major models are increasing the odds of a TC making landfall in Texas early next week.

NEW TROPICAL STORM FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 114 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+114 : 20.0N 91.8W

VERIFYING TIME POSITION STRENGTH TENDENCY
-------------- -------- -------- --------
12UTC 29.08.2021 20.8N 92.6W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE
00UTC 30.08.2021 22.8N 94.9W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE
12UTC 30.08.2021 23.9N 96.6W MODERATE INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY


Yeah the entire Texas coast from Brownsville all the way to Port Arthur need to be paying attention to this.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#127 Postby HoustonFrog » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:02 pm

So when will this become an "active" storm/invest?
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#128 Postby ColdMiser123 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:04 pm

Rgv20 wrote:12zUKMET Text Output...Has a TC South East of Brownsville by Monday morning. Looks like all the major models are increasing the odds of a TC making landfall in Texas early next week.

NEW TROPICAL STORM FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 114 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+114 : 20.0N 91.8W

VERIFYING TIME POSITION STRENGTH TENDENCY
-------------- -------- -------- --------
12UTC 29.08.2021 20.8N 92.6W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE
00UTC 30.08.2021 22.8N 94.9W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE
12UTC 30.08.2021 23.9N 96.6W MODERATE INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY


Looks to be the first time the UKMET is showing anything at all for this disturbance, a fluid situation with models still figuring out what will happen.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#129 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:04 pm

HoustonFrog wrote:So when will this become an "active" storm/invest?


Probably on either Wednesday or Thursday.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#130 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:04 pm

I don’t think he was being cryptic lol but making sure it was known. Model runs trending up the MX TX coast. Harvey type storm minus the stall cannot be discounted. The 31C ssts would blow this up…that large wind field from the CMC is discomforting.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#131 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:05 pm

IcyTundra wrote:
HoustonFrog wrote:So when will this become an "active" storm/invest?


Probably on either Wednesday or Thursday.


Agree with that time frame.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#132 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:09 pm

Y’all are leaving out the NAVGEM 06Z run north of matagorda!! :lol: :lol: Got to give it some love also.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#133 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:19 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#134 Postby jabman98 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:29 pm

Local TV mets in Houston are talking this up now. Lots of comparisons of American and European model runs during weather segments. Saying maybe even a possibility it could be a slow mover. We know plenty about slow moving systems and tons of rain and could certainly do without that.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#135 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:33 pm

Well defined 700 mb wave signature.
Mid-level (500 mb) vort becoming defined.

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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#136 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:36 pm

Whatever happens in the end, I really hope Texas does not find itself facing a hurricane threat later next week, let alone a major. Texas has already been through a lot with Harvey, and another big hurricane landfall would simply add more misery and suffering.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#137 Postby Frank P » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:41 pm

Sat presentation starting to slightly improve this afternoon… hints of broad banding evident on the loops.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Eastern Caribbean

#138 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:43 pm

Strong and wide area of convection firing along a sharp shear axis.
This time of year, setups like this can create a multiple number of hot towers that can push vorticity down to the surface and expand the upper troposphere vertically.


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Re: Tropical Wave over the Central Caribbean

#139 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:45 pm

A broad area of low pressure is expected to form over the
southwestern Caribbean Sea in a couple of days from a tropical wave
currently located over the central Caribbean Sea. Environmental
conditions are forecast to be conducive for development of the low
if it remains over water, and a tropical depression could form late
this week or this weekend while the system moves northwestward over
the northwestern Caribbean Sea, across the Yucatan Peninsula of
Mexico, and into the southwestern Gulf of Mexico by Sunday.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave over the Central Caribbean

#140 Postby Clearcloudz » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:55 pm

Wow very strong 12z CMC Run. I'm willing to predict EURO shows a major in to Texas on this run as well. CMC and euro tend to correlate a lot.
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