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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#201 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:55 am

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SoupBone wrote:Is the 12Z GFS bonkers? At 48 hours I'm not seeing anything.


Earlier runs didn't either, it just sort of "appears" west of the Caymans roughly 60 hours out (somewhat detached from where 99L is tagged at now to the point where I'm not really sure it's 99L at all).


Use vorticity, the MSLP graphs only good for shock value. :)

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#202 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:56 am

SoupBone wrote:Is the 12Z GFS bonkers? At 48 hours I'm not seeing anything.


Wait for it... It's coming. I'm afraid with all of the model agreement this is going to be one of those quick spin ups in the GOM that could have the potential to explode.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#203 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:57 am

12Z GFS, 78 hours, right off the tip of the Yuacatan.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#204 Postby Hurricane Mike » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:58 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:
SoupBone wrote:Is the 12Z GFS bonkers? At 48 hours I'm not seeing anything.


Wait for it... It's coming. I'm afraid with all of the model agreement this is going to be one of those quick spin ups in the GOM that could have the potential to explode.


Very reminiscent of the models pre-Harvey.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#205 Postby Steve » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:58 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:If the gfs shifts notably further east this run, I am going to be skeptical. At 60hr there are still competing centers, and it seems to be latching onto an eastern one that doesn’t appear to be the primary center. I guess we will see how it evolves though


84 hours - Tip of Yucatan
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#206 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:58 am

tolakram wrote:
BobHarlem wrote:
SoupBone wrote:Is the 12Z GFS bonkers? At 48 hours I'm not seeing anything.


Earlier runs didn't either, it just sort of "appears" west of the Caymans roughly 60 hours out (somewhat detached from where 99L is tagged at now to the point where I'm not really sure it's 99L at all).


Use vorticity, the MSLP graphs only good for shock value. :)

https://i.imgur.com/VQt1AKI.gif



That helps, thanks!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#207 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:00 am

Steve wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:If the gfs shifts notably further east this run, I am going to be skeptical. At 60hr there are still competing centers, and it seems to be latching onto an eastern one that doesn’t appear to be the primary center. I guess we will see how it evolves though


84 hours - Tip of Yucatan


FWIW that is slightly east of the 06z. We'll see if that makes a difference in the long run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#208 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:02 am

12Z GFS 90 Hours

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#209 Postby Steve » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:03 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:
Steve wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:If the gfs shifts notably further east this run, I am going to be skeptical. At 60hr there are still competing centers, and it seems to be latching onto an eastern one that doesn’t appear to be the primary center. I guess we will see how it evolves though


84 hours - Tip of Yucatan


FWIW that is slightly east of the 06z. We'll see if that makes a difference in the long run.


Word. 96 hours and there's a distinct western component still with the track. +/1 24.12N, 88.75W. I'd bet somewhere between Matagora Bay and Terrebonne Bay on this run once it gets to landfall unless it stalls out or something.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#210 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:04 am

Still east

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#211 Postby Steve » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:05 am

108 Hours +/- 25.9/90.6 so NWish

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114 Hours +/- 26.5/91.6

That's a turn a little more northerly but still moving NW
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#212 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:08 am

The crazy thing to me watching this unfold is just how soon this is expected to occur. We're less than 5 days away from a significant hurricane approaching the Gulf Coast if the 12z GFS verifies. The system hasn't even developed yet.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#213 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:08 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#214 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:09 am

Between 114 and 126 hours, it starts to make a turn to the north toward Louisiana. If it continued straight it would end up on top of Houston.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#215 Postby Steve » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:09 am

126 Hours - Getting closer to land in the NW Gulf.
27.5N/92.73W Still moving NW

132 Hours
28.1N/93.0W
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#216 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:10 am

945mb and still bombing out...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#217 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:11 am

SoupBone wrote:Between 114 and 126 hours, it starts to make a turn to the north toward Louisiana. If it continued straight it would end up on top of Houston.

It’s actually a hair west of the previous run at this time. The high is slightly stronger. The bend north may not be as dramatic this run.

Edit: the bend north does occur, but it is a slight shift back to the west. Landfall location will depend on how the high evolves in the final 24hr before landfall, which we won’t have a good idea of for a bit longer
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#218 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:11 am

Apologies in advanced for switching to shock mode. Remember global model intensity rarely verifies.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#219 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:12 am

933... holy.

Looks like Lake Charles or Lafayette?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#220 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:12 am

Right turn near landfall.

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