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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#381 Postby Keldeo1997 » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:16 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#382 Postby IcyTundra » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:18 pm

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grapealcoholic wrote:They would need to issue Hurricane Watches for NOLA like... tonight


Watches are issued 48 hours in advance of TS force winds. It's Wednesday and this is projected to be near the coast Monday morning.


18Z GFS actually has it making landfall 7 PM central time Sunday night compared to 12Z GFS which had it making landfall around 12 PM on Tuesday.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#383 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:18 pm




Yeah, I'm sorry, as much as I don't want that system on top of me, that far east, that fast, with that intensity seems WAY OFF. How would it maintain its structure booking it like that?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#384 Postby HoustonFrog » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:19 pm

How can a hurricane speed up by ~42 hours??
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#385 Postby aspen » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:19 pm

The GFS went from being one of the slowest solutions to one of the fastest between just two runs. The 18z run only gives 99L 30 hours between Cuba and Louisiana, which would really put a lid on how much it can intensify. I wonder why there’s such a significant speed difference.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#386 Postby IcyTundra » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:20 pm

How much fast would the average forward speed have to be for this to get to SE LA by Sunday night like the 18Z GFS is showing? That would be booking it.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#387 Postby Woofde » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:20 pm

HoustonFrog wrote:How can a hurricane speed up by ~42 hours??
The 12z run had it stall, the 18z doesn't.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#388 Postby Javlin » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:22 pm

IcyTundra wrote:
tolakram wrote:
grapealcoholic wrote:They would need to issue Hurricane Watches for NOLA like... tonight


Watches are issued 48 hours in advance of TS force winds. It's Wednesday and this is projected to be near the coast Monday morning.


18Z GFS actually has it making landfall 7 PM central time Sunday night compared to 12Z GFS which had it making landfall around 12 PM on Tuesday.

I agree it seems a little fast but also consider that it's has the system taking the shortest route possible .The long side of the R triangle has been significantly reduced=time.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#389 Postby Nederlander » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:22 pm

This run seems suspicious… it initialized much further north, near Jamaica. We’ll have to wait and see if it’s sniffing out something or just a bad run.

I agree with the sentiment that until a center forms, it’s hard to establish any real sense of confidence in these runs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#390 Postby ronyan » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:22 pm

18z Sunday forecast is ~700 miles off what it was 42hr ago.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#391 Postby grapealcoholic » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:24 pm

Ensemble is coming in much farther north as well
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#392 Postby HoustonFrog » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:24 pm

IcyTundra wrote:How much fast would the average forward speed have to be for this to get to SE LA by Sunday night like the 18Z GFS is showing? That would be booking it.


From Cuba to Louisiana I've got it going 17mph. About 630 miles in 37 hours
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#393 Postby IcyTundra » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:24 pm

We will see what the 18Z GEFS has to say. My suspicion is that the operational is still on the eastern edge of the ensemble spread and the operational will be much faster moving than the ensemble mean.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#394 Postby Tireman4 » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:26 pm

The Houston/Galveston NWS talks about the flip/flopping of the models in today's AFD..

Continue to closely monitor the official National Hurricane Center forecasts
as they take into account the differing model solutions and their associated
strengths, weaknesses and weaknesses. Now is the time to review your
hurricane preparedness plans/kits to make sure they are up to date.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#395 Postby Woofde » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:26 pm

At 72hr the ensemble package is already a decent bit further North.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#396 Postby Kazmit » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:26 pm

Next GFS run it will reach Tampa by Friday night. :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#397 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:27 pm

aspen wrote:The GFS went from being one of the slowest solutions to one of the fastest between just two runs. The 18z run only gives 99L 30 hours between Cuba and Louisiana, which would really put a lid on how much it can intensify. I wonder why there’s such a significant speed difference.

FWIW, the fastest-moving tropical system ever recorded in the Gulf is Nate 2017 which only took 24 hours to get from Yucatan Channel to the Northern Gulf Coast. I highly doubt any system can replicate such speed in the month of August
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#398 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:28 pm

grapealcoholic wrote:Ensemble is coming in much farther north as well


North and consolidated, at least at the 84 hour mark. Not a huge spread yet.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#399 Postby Woofde » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:29 pm

supercane4867 wrote:
aspen wrote:The GFS went from being one of the slowest solutions to one of the fastest between just two runs. The 18z run only gives 99L 30 hours between Cuba and Louisiana, which would really put a lid on how much it can intensify. I wonder why there’s such a significant speed difference.

FWIW, the fastest-moving tropical system ever recorded in the Gulf is Nate 2017 which only took 24 hours to get from Yucatan Channel to the Northern Gulf Coast. I highly doubt any system can replicate such speed in the month of August
Nate was quite the speedster. Though that forward speed didn't stop it from intensifying. I doubt it will for this system either.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#400 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:35 pm

at 96hours, still clustered pretty good and headed toward Louisiana, mostly.

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