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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3021 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:58 pm

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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion - RECON in route

#3022 Postby chaser1 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:59 pm

jcera wrote:Also, I might add, its not called a "Buzzsaw" because of the amount of damage it will do, it's called that because the shape of strong Hurricanes can resemble a literal buzzsaw blade.


Believe it or not but that phrase actually expresses the appearance of the upper anticyclone centered perfectly over center and fanning outflow out at a rate that results in a "buzz-saw" appearance
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3023 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:59 pm

ROCK wrote:when recon gets there should be close to a cat3 maybe a high end cat 3..the winds need to catch up.

Yeah probably near 100-105kts already. This is based on Dvorak estimates, so a good test vs. real time observations once recon goes in.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3024 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:00 pm

What is AF303 doing? Are they on a different mission?

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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3025 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:01 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:What is AF303 doing? Are they on a different mission?

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_AF303-1109A-IDA_dropsondes.png


That's the old mission.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3026 Postby Nate-Gillson » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:01 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:What is AF303 doing? Are they on a different mission?

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_AF303-1109A-IDA_dropsondes.png

That was from earlier.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3027 Postby chaser1 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:02 pm

Can't hold out any longer lol - NEED sleep! Good night ya'll; stay safe.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3028 Postby HurricaneBelle » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:02 pm

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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3029 Postby ROCK » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:03 pm

Need more cow bells!! Or recon needs to get in there 964 was last pressure I saw. Probably be under 960 now
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3030 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:04 pm

tolakram wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:What is AF303 doing? Are they on a different mission?

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_AF303-1109A-IDA_dropsondes.png


That's the old mission.


Ah ok. They tricked me. It’s still showing as “in storm”.

Thank you
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3031 Postby sikkar » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:05 pm

ROCK wrote:Need more cow bells!! Or recon needs to get in there 964 was last pressure I saw. Probably be under 960 now

I'm thinking 950-955 based on improved structure.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3032 Postby Stormybajan » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:06 pm

Clearcloudz wrote:My prediction is they find a cat 3 with 120 - 125 mph

Going with 115 mph and 960 mb, would be surprising for Ida not to be a cat 3 by now, even if the winds are lagging behind
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3033 Postby ThetaE » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:06 pm

Last pass through the center by the NOAA plane (966mb) was at 7:30 CDT. It'll probably be about 4-4.5 hrs between passes, then. At a rate of ~2mb/hr (what Ida was doing during the NOAA recon passes), pressures would be at 957-958mb. But given the remarkable improvements in Ida's appearance since that last pass (and the rate at which Ida was improving on satellite wasn't that remarkable when dropping 2mb/hr), a strong argument could be made that the intensification rate has been even faster.

Personally I'm thinking closer to 3mb/hr, so around 953mb/100kt. Not too sure about the winds; think they'll still be lagging, but ultimately to get such rapid intensification WISHE must be ramping up quickly, which implies that surface winds are keeping pace to some degree.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3034 Postby HDGator » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:07 pm


That AWOS station is about 75 miles north of the center and showing sustained 60mph winds with gusts over 70 mph.
I've been watching it for hours and it's been slowly ramping up with Ida's approach and shows a pretty strong wind field that is really strengthening.
I don't think the 35 mile radius for hurricane strength winds is anywhere close anymore.
I guess we'll find out soon enough with the upcoming recon data.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3035 Postby ROCK » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:07 pm

sikkar wrote:
ROCK wrote:Need more cow bells!! Or recon needs to get in there 964 was last pressure I saw. Probably be under 960 now

I'm thinking 950-955 based on improved structure.


I am down with that…those cloud tops around the eye are jacked. Winds either have caught up by now or will be when they get in the core.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3036 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:07 pm

Stormybajan wrote:
Clearcloudz wrote:My prediction is they find a cat 3 with 120 - 125 mph

Going with 115 mph and 960 mb, would be surprising for Ida not to be a cat 3 by now, even if the winds are lagging behind


I think you’re pretty close. Not sure about wind speed but IR sure looks like a cat 3
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3037 Postby PavelGaborik » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:07 pm

I'll go with 110 MPH, 955 MB.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3038 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:07 pm

I'm thinking recon finds about 100-105kts/~955mb
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3039 Postby SteveM » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:08 pm

That eye is looking pretty good.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3040 Postby SunnyThoughts » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:08 pm

ROCK wrote:Need more cow bells!! Or recon needs to get in there 964 was last pressure I saw. Probably be under 960 now



Yeah Rock, Im sure she's in the 950's now...maybe low 950's
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