2021 Cyclones Retirement: Ida -> Imani
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Re: 2021 Cyclones Retirement
GSBHurricane wrote:Any possible replacements for Nora?
Natasha, Natalia, Naomi, Nina
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The fact that Henri’s impacts are being outclassed by non-tropical remnants definitely means he’ll definitely be returning in 2027.
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So as of now it looks like Ida is the only name we have seen so far that will almost certainly not escape retirement due to its devastating impacts, and I do not see how it could be overshadowed. Hitting near New Orleans as a high-end Category 4 storm (with preliminary damages more than 15 billion dollars) is enough for retirement alone.
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Category5Kaiju wrote:So as of now it looks like Ida is the only name we have seen so far that will almost certainly not escape retirement due to its devastating impacts, and I do not see how it could be overshadowed. Hitting near New Orleans as a high-end Category 4 storm (with preliminary damages more than 15 billion dollars) is enough for retirement alone.
In fact, I’d be surprised if any of the other storms so far don’t come back in ‘27.
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Tekken_Guy wrote:Category5Kaiju wrote:So as of now it looks like Ida is the only name we have seen so far that will almost certainly not escape retirement due to its devastating impacts, and I do not see how it could be overshadowed. Hitting near New Orleans as a high-end Category 4 storm (with preliminary damages more than 15 billion dollars) is enough for retirement alone.
In fact, I’d be surprised if any of the other storms so far don’t come back in ‘27.
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Oh actually, now the preliminary estimates call for at least 50 billion dollars in damage, and the official death toll is 63 which is sadly expected to rise, with the Northeast hit hard. Ida is definitely a goner.
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Tekken_Guy wrote:Category5Kaiju wrote:So as of now it looks like Ida is the only name we have seen so far that will almost certainly not escape retirement due to its devastating impacts, and I do not see how it could be overshadowed. Hitting near New Orleans as a high-end Category 4 storm (with preliminary damages more than 15 billion dollars) is enough for retirement alone.
In fact, I’d be surprised if any of the other storms so far don’t come back in ‘27.
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Agreed. So far, Ida is a goner, but everything else looks to be intact.
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At this moment, my estimated likelihood of retirement:
Ana - 0%
Bill - 0%
Claudette - 2%
Danny - 0%
Elsa - 3%
Fred - 2%
Grace - 20%
Henri - 3%
Ida - 100%
Julian - 0%
Kate - 0%
Ana - 0%
Bill - 0%
Claudette - 2%
Danny - 0%
Elsa - 3%
Fred - 2%
Grace - 20%
Henri - 3%
Ida - 100%
Julian - 0%
Kate - 0%
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It's a wait and see game at this moment, but it looks like there may be a non-zero chance that we will need a new male S name for List 1 after this year .....
Edit: nvm, looks like Sam will be remembered from this year as a near Cat 5 fish storm. Still awesome to see nonetheless, although it looks like Sam will live to see another day.
Edit: nvm, looks like Sam will be remembered from this year as a near Cat 5 fish storm. Still awesome to see nonetheless, although it looks like Sam will live to see another day.
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Late to the topic but I think Ivy would be a great replacement for Ida, completely new I name without being a stretch.
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So something I have just found out recently, but it looks like there is a really serious lack of good, well-known W female names that are not in use for any of the 2 basins or retired (like this is so much worse than Is to be fair). Like I never realized how rare W female names were until recently (while W male names are really abundant). We'll see what Wanda does this year, but *if* she decides to be a bad girl, then I honestly cannot think of what good name would replace Wanda. Winona? Willow? Those are like the only W female names I can think of.
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Category5Kaiju wrote:So something I have just found out recently, but it looks like there is a really serious lack of good, well-known W female names that are not in use for any of the 2 basins or retired (like this is so much worse than Is to be fair). Like I never realized how rare W female names were until recently (while W male names are really abundant). We'll see what Wanda does this year, but *if* she decides to be a bad girl, then I honestly cannot think of what good name would replace Wanda. Winona? Willow? Those are like the only W female names I can think of.
Much like how I is female biased, W is quite male biased. There are a ton of good unused male W names (Winston, Wesley, Wyatt, Wilson, Wayne, Wilmer, Willard, etc.), but you're right that there aren't many female options. Luckily, we don't retire W as often, so I don't think it'll be too much of a problem for now. Winona is probably the next best name in case Wanda does something bad, since it's a fairly common name.
Another letter that could get us in trouble if we have frequent retirements is actually O, which is at more risk than W, but luckily we haven't had many O retirements so far. Also, side note - I wish the person who ordered the alphabet had swapped the positions of I and J... having a J and M curse instead of an I and M curse would actually be pretty nice, since J and M are two of the most popular first initials and would give more people an opportunity to have a storm named after them.
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Category5Kaiju wrote:So something I have just found out recently, but it looks like there is a really serious lack of good, well-known W female names that are not in use for any of the 2 basins or retired (like this is so much worse than Is to be fair). Like I never realized how rare W female names were until recently (while W male names are really abundant). We'll see what Wanda does this year, but *if* she decides to be a bad girl, then I honestly cannot think of what good name would replace Wanda. Winona? Willow? Those are like the only W female names I can think of.
I agree that female W names are hard to think of, with Z actually being a much better letter than W in this regard. And two of the regularly used female W names in the USA right now, Winter and Wednesday, would just be very odd to give a tropical storm because of their obvious meanings.
However, there really are more possible alternatives than WInona and Willow. Looking at names given to five or more girls in the USA in 2020, I would think that Wakely, Waniya, Waverley, Weslyn, Whitley, Wilhelmina, Winsley, Wren, and Wynne would all be possible to use. And there are a few other names which were used in earlier generations such as Wenda, Wilda, Wilmot, and Weltha that could possibly be applied to tropical storms.
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Wanda may be 50/50 because of the damage it did in eastern New England
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Hurricaneman wrote:Wanda may be 50/50 because of the damage it did in eastern New England
The issue is that even if the damage is retirement worthy, it was not associated with the name "Wanda". All damage was done when it was still an unnamed noreaster.
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A Nor’easter is dropping a ton of rain over Connecticut today. It’s been so bad that there have been whiteout conditions from rain that’s so heavy. My usually 5 minute drive to campus instead took half an hour today.
Seeing how Henri couldn’t even match up to an unnamed non-tropical system, there’s no way it’s getting retired.
Seeing how Henri couldn’t even match up to an unnamed non-tropical system, there’s no way it’s getting retired.
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Hurricaneman wrote:Wanda may be 50/50 because of the damage it did in eastern New England
I assure you there is an almost-zero chance Wanda is retired in any capacity.
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In all likelihood, Ida will be the only retired storm from 2021.
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I can't see any other name other than Ida being retired. Grace has the second highest chance but those odds are still low.
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