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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#161 Postby lrak » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:47 am

GCANE wrote:Looks like recon is starting to see a little drop in pressure now.


Thanks GCANE, I was wondering about this since the BOC buoy is not changing but the winds there are strong.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#162 Postby underthwx » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:48 am

wxman57 wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Man, this tropical storm that's forecasted might bring some seriously flooding rains...Look how it just crawls between Tuesday and Thursday.... Yikes!!!


Both GFS & EC have strong west wind across the upper TX coast (aloft) Tuesday. Drives the precip well east of the center into Louisiana on Tuesday. See the RH graphic on Levi's page:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2021091212/gfs_midRH_scus_11.png


Which keeps the precipitation manageable for Harris, Brazoria Counties xman?
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#163 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:49 am

Significantly NW where GFS has it.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#164 Postby SoupBone » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:51 am

underthwx wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Man, this tropical storm that's forecasted might bring some seriously flooding rains...Look how it just crawls between Tuesday and Thursday.... Yikes!!!


Both GFS & EC have strong west wind across the upper TX coast (aloft) Tuesday. Drives the precip well east of the center into Louisiana on Tuesday. See the RH graphic on Levi's page:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2021091212/gfs_midRH_scus_11.png


Which keeps the precipitation manageable for Harris, Brazoria Counties xman?


If that verifies, I think it shows 5-10" over the Greater Houston area.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#165 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:51 am

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#166 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:52 am

wxman57 wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Man, this tropical storm that's forecasted might bring some seriously flooding rains...Look how it just crawls between Tuesday and Thursday.... Yikes!!!


Both GFS & EC have strong west wind across the upper TX coast (aloft) Tuesday. Drives the precip well east of the center into Louisiana on Tuesday. See the RH graphic on Levi's page:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2021091212/gfs_midRH_scus_11.png


Man, that's not good at all :( This means that Poor Louisiana gonna get big rains due to the slow movement of Nicholas... :(
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#167 Postby Texashawk » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:54 am

Wasn’t there a hurricane that hit South Texas a few years ago that was literally eaten and dissipated within a few hours of landfall by the dry air surrounding it? I may be misremembering this; sorry if so. Is that a possibility with Nick?
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#168 Postby SoupBone » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:56 am

Texashawk wrote:Wasn’t there a hurricane that hit South Texas a few years ago that was literally eaten and dissipated within a few hours of landfall by the dry air surrounding it? I may be misremembering this; sorry if so. Is that a possibility with Nick?


I don't recall it being a hurricane, but there was a system that basically poofed when it hit the Texas dry air. I don't think that will be the case here, but that dry air will hopefully keep the intensity minimal.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#169 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:56 am

Looks about right for the feeder-band development.
Might see some good ramp-up after sunset.

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#170 Postby Portastorm » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:57 am

SoupBone wrote:
Texashawk wrote:Wasn’t there a hurricane that hit South Texas a few years ago that was literally eaten and dissipated within a few hours of landfall by the dry air surrounding it? I may be misremembering this; sorry if so. Is that a possibility with Nick?


I don't recall it being a hurricane, but there was a system that basically poofed when it hit the Texas dry air. I don't think that will be the case here, but that dry air will hopefully keep the intensity minimal.


Hurricane Don. 2011.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#171 Postby jaguars_22 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:57 am

Tropical storm don I believe was coming and then ummm evaporated
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#172 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:57 am

GCANE wrote:Significantly NW where GFS has it.

Just looking at satellite, the circulation still looks elongated NW to SE to me. I am betting the final center consolidation point is still a little up in the air
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#173 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:58 am

Portastorm wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
Texashawk wrote:Wasn’t there a hurricane that hit South Texas a few years ago that was literally eaten and dissipated within a few hours of landfall by the dry air surrounding it? I may be misremembering this; sorry if so. Is that a possibility with Nick?


I don't recall it being a hurricane, but there was a system that basically poofed when it hit the Texas dry air. I don't think that will be the case here, but that dry air will hopefully keep the intensity minimal.


Hurricane Don. 2011.

Haha, good one
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#174 Postby SoupBone » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:06 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Portastorm wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
I don't recall it being a hurricane, but there was a system that basically poofed when it hit the Texas dry air. I don't think that will be the case here, but that dry air will hopefully keep the intensity minimal.


Hurricane Don. 2011.

Haha, good one



That's the one! It dropped like only an inch of rain in most spots, very minimal winds. It was so strange watching it dissipate in short order. Texas put a dry air boot on him and threw him out of Texas. I wish Nicholas would meet the same fate, but there are spots in Texas that need rain bad. I hope the dry air does its job, but the parts that need rain get a little taste of it. We don't want 15" in Houston, thank you. :lol:
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#175 Postby wkwally » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:09 pm

I remember Don very well as I was expecting a very busy day and night so I took a nap before land fall and I woke up and like what the Hell?
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#176 Postby underthwx » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:14 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Man, this tropical storm that's forecasted might bring some seriously flooding rains...Look how it just crawls between Tuesday and Thursday.... Yikes!!!


Both GFS & EC have strong west wind across the upper TX coast (aloft) Tuesday. Drives the precip well east of the center into Louisiana on Tuesday. See the RH graphic on Levi's page:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2021091212/gfs_midRH_scus_11.png


Man, that's not good at all :( This means that Poor Louisiana gonna get big rains due to the slow movement of Nicholas... :(


True that....it seems inevitable there will be some unwelcome rainfall totals in the areas affected recently by Ida...
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#177 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:17 pm

SoupBone wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:
Portastorm wrote:
Hurricane Don. 2011.

Haha, good one



That's the one! It dropped like only an inch of rain in most spots, very minimal winds. It was so strange watching it dissipate in short order. Texas put a dry air boot on him and threw him out of Texas. I wish Nicholas would meet the same fate, but there are spots in Texas that need rain bad. I hope the dry air does its job, but the parts that need rain get a little taste of it. We don't want 15" in Houston, thank you. :lol:


ZCZC MIATCDAT4 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE DON DISCUSSION NUMBER 11
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042011
400 AM CDT SAT JUL 30 2011

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM. DON SHOULD OPEN UP INTO A TROUGH LATER
TODAY AS IT MOVES TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST AND IS NOT EXPECTED TO POSE
A RAINFALL THREAT.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 30/0900Z 27.9N 98.8W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
12H 30/1800Z 28.5N 101.0W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
24H 31/0600Z...DISSIPATED INLAND

$$
FORECASTER BLAKE

NNNN


Someone did mention Don. Best last discussion ever, IMO :lol:
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#178 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:20 pm

Is that an LLC swirl I see at 22.5N/95.0W?
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#179 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:27 pm

42 mm/hr rain rate.
Good chance it'll ramp up.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#180 Postby xironman » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:30 pm

SoupBone wrote:
Texashawk wrote:Wasn’t there a hurricane that hit South Texas a few years ago that was literally eaten and dissipated within a few hours of landfall by the dry air surrounding it? I may be misremembering this; sorry if so. Is that a possibility with Nick?


I don't recall it being a hurricane, but there was a system that basically poofed when it hit the Texas dry air. I don't think that will be the case here, but that dry air will hopefully keep the intensity minimal.

If you look at the GFS 700-400 RH you will see that the dry air does not affect the system until Tuesday morning. Lot of time between now and then.
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