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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#341 Postby IcyTundra » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:58 pm

tropicwatch wrote:If the center stays in the area of where the HH's are currently finding it. I have my doubts of it actually making it to Texas. That would possibly allow extreme southern Texas to get some rain.

Idk NHC usually isn't very far off this close to landfall Nicholas making landfall near the TX/Mexico border over 100 miles south of where the NHC has it currently making landfall would certainly be something.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#342 Postby SoupBone » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:00 pm

grapealcoholic wrote:Looking at WV, and actually I don't think shear is that high at all right now. Probably <10 kts



Shear within the last 3 hours.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#343 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:00 pm

IcyTundra wrote:
tropicwatch wrote:If the center stays in the area of where the HH's are currently finding it. I have my doubts of it actually making it to Texas. That would possibly allow extreme southern Texas to get some rain.

Idk NHC usually isn't very far off this close to landfall Nicholas making landfall near the TX/Mexico border over 100 miles south of where the NHC has it currently making landfall would certainly be something.


Developing systems can be very fickled creatures. Nothing set in stone as of yet.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#344 Postby Rgv20 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:01 pm

Levi's take on TS Nicholas.....He has always been very knowledgeable regarding Tropical Weather.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/VpbNG3HfdEM[/youtube]
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#345 Postby grapealcoholic » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:01 pm

Feature near 24/95.5 looks interesting and seems to have some spin

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#346 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:03 pm

18Z GFS has 8-10" rain in south Houston but all rain over by sunrise Tuesday with dry air flowing in.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#347 Postby Rgv20 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:03 pm

tropicwatch wrote:
IcyTundra wrote:
tropicwatch wrote:If the center stays in the area of where the HH's are currently finding it. I have my doubts of it actually making it to Texas. That would possibly allow extreme southern Texas to get some rain.

Idk NHC usually isn't very far off this close to landfall Nicholas making landfall near the TX/Mexico border over 100 miles south of where the NHC has it currently making landfall would certainly be something.


Developing systems can be very fickled creatures. Nothing set in stone as of yet.


Not only that the angle of approach is very tricky...50 miles west or east of the track makes a huge difference when is paralleling the NE Coast all the way to the Mid Texas Coast.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#348 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:06 pm

We could see something like Barry make landfall except the convection is displaced to the north. #Uglycane.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#349 Postby SoupBone » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:06 pm

wxman57 wrote:18Z GFS has 8-10" rain in south Houston but all rain over by sunrise Tuesday with dry air flowing in.



Yeah I posted that earlier. I'm not usually a model hugger but I'd rather the GFS than the Euro right now.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#350 Postby dpep4 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:13 pm

IcyTundra wrote:
tropicwatch wrote:If the center stays in the area of where the HH's are currently finding it. I have my doubts of it actually making it to Texas. That would possibly allow extreme southern Texas to get some rain.

Idk NHC usually isn't very far off this close to landfall Nicholas making landfall near the TX/Mexico border over 100 miles south of where the NHC has it currently making landfall would certainly be something.


The current NHC track comes within 15 miles of the TX/Mex border beaches, about halfway between the cone center and its western edge. Just a small deviation or center relocation could result in a technical Mexico landfall.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#351 Postby grapealcoholic » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:13 pm

grapealcoholic wrote:Feature near 24/95.5 looks interesting and seems to have some spin

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~mnissenbaum/RadarArchive/KBRO2/2021/09/13/KBRO20210913004558.png

Deep convection firing in the same spot now too
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#352 Postby Clearcloudz » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:15 pm

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#353 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:16 pm

grapealcoholic wrote:
grapealcoholic wrote:Feature near 24/95.5 looks interesting and seems to have some spin

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~mnissenbaum/RadarArchive/KBRO2/2021/09/13/KBRO20210913004558.png

Deep convection firing in the same spot now too

Thats the center btw.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#354 Postby grapealcoholic » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:17 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:
grapealcoholic wrote:
grapealcoholic wrote:Feature near 24/95.5 looks interesting and seems to have some spin

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~mnissenbaum/RadarArchive/KBRO2/2021/09/13/KBRO20210913004558.png

Deep convection firing in the same spot now too

Thats the center btw.

To be clear, that's nowhere near where recon fixed the center. But I agree
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#355 Postby Smurfwicked » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:17 pm

Rgv20 wrote:
tropicwatch wrote:
IcyTundra wrote:
Idk NHC usually isn't very far off this close to landfall Nicholas making landfall near the TX/Mexico border over 100 miles south of where the NHC has it currently making landfall would certainly be something.


Developing systems can be very fickled creatures. Nothing set in stone as of yet.


Not only that the angle of approach is very tricky...50 miles west or east of the track makes a huge difference when is paralleling the NE Coast all the way to the Mid Texas Coast.


My thoughts exactly when 100 miles south only means 40 or so miles west. 2 days out I would fully expect a general consensus with the direction but my concerns are more how far inland does it get before it curves and does it significantly slow down cause we've seen a core be completely dry being inland while still pumping long streamers of heavy rainfall over same area east of center.

From my memory of Harvey's effects on southeast texas it went something like Houston got the heavy rain one night and then during the day the storm dried out only to re-ignite the next night and dump heavy rains west of beaumont/east of houston. Then it dried out again the following day and re-ignited again on the 3rd night and hit beaumont/port arthur hard. Sure it rained during those dry days but it was manageable, the heavier 4+"/hr rates happen for the most part overnight.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#356 Postby IcyTundra » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:17 pm

TVCN shifted slightly further east for the 18Z runs expect the NHC to mostly keep the current forecast track as it is or a very slight shift east at the 10 PM advisory.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#357 Postby Nimbus » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:19 pm

Recon finding all the green wind barbs displaced NE with surface pressure about 1008 mb's.
Shear forecast remains unfavorable so Beaumont might end up getting higher rain totals than Houston but even there, the 10 inch precip accumulation forecast sounded more reasonable to me.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#358 Postby sphelps8681 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:24 pm

Nimbus wrote:Recon finding all the green wind barbs displaced NE with surface pressure about 1008 mb's.
Shear forecast remains unfavorable so Beaumont might end up getting higher rain totals than Houston but even there, the 10 inch precip accumulation forecast sounded more reasonable to me.


I am N of Beaumont just slightly and that is what they are forecasting for my area. 10-15.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#359 Postby grapealcoholic » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:28 pm

Tight core. Spicy

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#360 Postby hipshot » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:28 pm

IcyTundra wrote:TVCN shifted slightly further east for the 18Z runs expect the NHC to mostly keep the current forecast track as it is or a very slight shift east at the 10 PM advisory.

I have to drive from Dallas to Austin Thursday, I think most of this will have moved east by then, any thoughts?
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