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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3481 Postby Sambucol » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:06 am

Ntxw wrote:Just wanted to note GFS brings the secondary cold surge over the weekend next week past the first blitz. Colder than Thurs-Fri. So far it's been consistent showing it while the other models are meh. Not going to lie it brings back eerie feels of 2021 when the GFS kept it at against the world.


Wxman57 mentioned the next one is what he was watching more than this one.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3482 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:17 am

ICON is showing a strong Warm Nose on the soundings, if the system is a little farther south with more moisture (Especially the first part), that may defeat the Warm Nose feature.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3483 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:41 am

Sambucol wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Just wanted to note GFS brings the secondary cold surge over the weekend next week past the first blitz. Colder than Thurs-Fri. So far it's been consistent showing it while the other models are meh. Not going to lie it brings back eerie feels of 2021 when the GFS kept at it against the world.


Wxman57 mentioned the next one is what he was watching more than this one.


The "next one" was way out in fantasy land and only in the GFS. It gave up on that idea yesterday. This could be a significant freezing rain and sleet event for TX next Thu-Sun. It's moving into the time frame where the models could be right. Models are indicating a large, shallow area of sub-freezing temps at the surface. The sub-freezing layer may not be deep enough for a lot of snow, but it would certainly be deep enough for an ice storm. The farther north in TX, the more sleet vs. freezing rain. There would be snow, too, but the main impact would be the icy conditions on roadways and power lines.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3484 Postby Haris » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:47 am

wxman57 wrote:
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Ntxw wrote:Just wanted to note GFS brings the secondary cold surge over the weekend next week past the first blitz. Colder than Thurs-Fri. So far it's been consistent showing it while the other models are meh. Not going to lie it brings back eerie feels of 2021 when the GFS kept at it against the world.


Wxman57 mentioned the next one is what he was watching more than this one.


The "next one" was way out in fantasy land and only in the GFS. It gave up on that idea yesterday. This could be a significant freezing rain and sleet event for TX next Thu-Sun. It's moving into the time frame where the models could be right. Models are indicating a large, shallow area of sub-freezing temps at the surface. The sub-freezing layer may not be deep enough for a lot of snow, but it would certainly be deep enough for an ice storm. The farther north in TX, the more sleet vs. freezing rain. There would be snow, too, but the main impact would be the icy conditions on roadways and power lines.



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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3485 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:48 am

Large portion of Texas is already in the 20s at this point, including DFW. I don't look at the ICON often but wow...

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3486 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:05 am

Haris wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Sambucol wrote:
Wxman57 mentioned the next one is what he was watching more than this one.


The "next one" was way out in fantasy land and only in the GFS. It gave up on that idea yesterday. This could be a significant freezing rain and sleet event for TX next Thu-Sun. It's moving into the time frame where the models could be right. Models are indicating a large, shallow area of sub-freezing temps at the surface. The sub-freezing layer may not be deep enough for a lot of snow, but it would certainly be deep enough for an ice storm. The farther north in TX, the more sleet vs. freezing rain. There would be snow, too, but the main impact would be the icy conditions on roadways and power lines.


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Do you understand that I'm not talking about a pretty, fluffy white snowflake event, I'm concerned about a significant ice storm that would make travel quite difficult and possibly knock out your power for days? That's my concern. Snow is fun, freezing rain is the opposite of fun. I notice the GFS has sub-zero temps in the D-FW area Monday night due to all the ice on the ground. Better start chopping some firewood.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3487 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:08 am

wxman57 wrote:
Haris wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
The "next one" was way out in fantasy land and only in the GFS. It gave up on that idea yesterday. This could be a significant freezing rain and sleet event for TX next Thu-Sun. It's moving into the time frame where the models could be right. Models are indicating a large, shallow area of sub-freezing temps at the surface. The sub-freezing layer may not be deep enough for a lot of snow, but it would certainly be deep enough for an ice storm. The farther north in TX, the more sleet vs. freezing rain. There would be snow, too, but the main impact would be the icy conditions on roadways and power lines.


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Do you understand that I'm not talking about a pretty, fluffy white snowflake event, I'm concerned about a significant ice storm that would make travel quite difficult and possibly knock out your power for days? That's my concern. Snow is fun, freezing rain is the opposite of fun. I notice the GFS has sub-zero temps in the D-FW area Monday night due to all the ice on the ground. Better start chopping some firewood.


I've experienced Ice Storms before, they are no fun.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3488 Postby TexasF6 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:10 am

Oh shoot. 57 has spoken. I am concerned about both systems. Porta??? :double: :froze: :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3489 Postby kingwood_tx1999 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:12 am

Is wxman57 talking about a freezing rain event here in the Houston area and the coast or is he talking about up in north Texas and just rain here in and around houston?

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3490 Postby Portastorm » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:14 am

TexasF6 wrote:Oh shoot. 57 has spoken. I am concerned about both systems. Porta??? :double: :froze: :cold:


I’m with him … if we see the Euro today caving towards the others, it’s time to get ready.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3491 Postby gpsnowman » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:14 am

This could get real interesting folks. I am already looking into a hotel room close to my job just in case. Also considering what to do if my daughter misses school and my wife misses work. Freezing rain is awful so hopefully we get mostly sleet with some snow mixed in.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3492 Postby Cerlin » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:15 am

Yeah that 6z GFS run was not what I wanted. Two ice storms for NTX and me in Norman. We’re still dealing with tree damage from the October 2020 ice storm up here, and with projected ice accumulations of over half an inch, that would seriously compromise some infrastructure. Hoping for a more amplified shortwave for the 12z run (assuming that solution would lead to more snowfall over ice).
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3493 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:16 am

Cerlin wrote:Yeah that 6z GFS run was not what I wanted. Two ice storms for NTX and me in Norman. We’re still dealing with tree damage from the October 2020 ice storm up here, and with projected ice accumulations of over half an inch, that would seriously compromise some infrastructure. Hoping for a more amplified shortwave for the 12z run (assuming that solution would lead to more snowfall over ice).


Also considering the Warm Nose, the 6z ICON Soundings does take note of that.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3494 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:20 am

I do believe that most of the Mesoscale models will be in range for this storm system by the start of February
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3495 Postby Cerlin » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:20 am

Iceresistance wrote:
Cerlin wrote:Yeah that 6z GFS run was not what I wanted. Two ice storms for NTX and me in Norman. We’re still dealing with tree damage from the October 2020 ice storm up here, and with projected ice accumulations of over half an inch, that would seriously compromise some infrastructure. Hoping for a more amplified shortwave for the 12z run (assuming that solution would lead to more snowfall over ice).


Also considering the Warm Nose, the 6z ICON Soundings does take note of that.

Yeah that warm nose is gonna kill us, so I’m hoping that whatever precipitation happens lags behind until it’s been eroded.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3496 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:21 am

Yikes that's a nasty GFS run :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3497 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:25 am

Weather Dude wrote:Yikes that's a nasty GFS run :eek:
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Do you already have the 12z run, or still seeing the 0z & 6z runs?
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3498 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:27 am

kingwood_tx1999 wrote:Is wxman57 talking about a freezing rain event here in the Houston area and the coast or is he talking about up in north Texas and just rain here in and around houston?

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Let me ask him... He says "yes, possibly freezing rain in Houston. It's not a guarantee yet, just a possibility".
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3499 Postby gboudx » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:29 am

Seeing the Heat Miser onboard gives me pause. Before last year's event, I went and got another 1/4 cord of firewood after reading all the posts here, and 57's in particular. Good thing I did because that firewood yard sold out about 4 days later after the storm hit. This place had several dozen full cords of firewood too. And boy did we need that wood. The constant rolling blackouts got the house cold, but the firewood kept the living room nice and cozy. Even though I still have about a 1/8 cord left, I'm going buy another 1/4 on Monday. If we don't need it, it'll be well seasoned and dry from sitting out in the sure to come summer heat.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3500 Postby Cerlin » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:30 am

12z ICON doesn’t show much change. Still unrelenting.
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