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Re: 2022 indicators: SSTs / SAL / MSLP / shear / steering / instability / images

#681 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Fri May 06, 2022 5:02 pm


Probably less in the way of stability issues this year if it continues to be less prominent.
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#682 Postby AlphaToOmega » Sat May 07, 2022 6:02 am

There is currently a WWB in the Eastern Pacific, which might bring us into a La Nina Modoki temporarily. You can already see this WWB chipping away at the Nino 1+2 cold anomalies.

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#683 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat May 07, 2022 8:26 am

AlphaToOmega wrote:There is currently a WWB in the Eastern Pacific, which might bring us into a La Nina Modoki temporarily. You can already see this WWB chipping away at the Nino 1+2 cold anomalies.

https://i.postimg.cc/jStTS7LZ/gfs-0-N-hov-uanom-2022050700.png

https://i.postimg.cc/VsJnKSsG/ssta-global-20220430.png

https://i.postimg.cc/kDrncYMm/ssta-global-20220506.png


Not quite sure if we can term this La Nina a "Modoki" per se as I think that criteria must last multiple months, and typically speaking a La Nina Modoki is associated with a dearth of tropical cyclones in the Arabian Sea but plenty of such in the Bay of Bengal, as well as above normal precip over northwestern Australia. A La Nina Modoki is more than just the Ninos 1,2 region being warmer than Nino 3; you have to look at other regions of the world and what is happening there in order to determine for sure if there indeed is a La Nina Modoki. I personally do not think we have enough information to term it such as of yet.
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#684 Postby AlphaToOmega » Sat May 07, 2022 12:38 pm

The NMME ensemble for this month has been released. There is not very much new information, but it is further confirmation of the projected pattern for ASO this year.

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Of things to note in this model run are:

  • The -ENSO: Most strikingly on this model run is the -ENSO, which means wetter-than-average conditions for those in Australia and East Asia and drier-than-average conditions for those on the Pacific coasts of North and South America. However, for people who track the tropics, a -ENSO means a less active Pacific Hurricane Season and a more active Atlantic Hurricane Season, especially given the fact that the strongest cool anomalies in the Equatorial Pacific seem to be closer to South America instead of Indonesia, making this a classic -ENSO.
  • The -PDO: This recent negative phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation that has been persisting since early 2020 is a major contributor to the ongoing drought in the Western United States, and the NMME shows it continuing into September of this year. -PDOs are associated with drought in Western North America and sinking air in the East Pacific Ocean, leading to a less active Pacific Hurricane Season and a more active Atlantic Hurricane Season.
  • The -IOD: IOD and ENSO are usually correlated; +ENSO correlates with +IOD, and -ENSO correlates with -IOD. -IOD means drier-than-average conditions for East Africa and wetter-than-average conditions for Southeast Asia. Given the combination of -ENSO and -IOD, one can expect Indonesia to receive major rainfall this year, which is also projected by the NMME.
  • The Atlantic Niña: Just as striking as the -ENSO on this model is the Atlantic Niña. Strong Atlantic Niños have been able to produce El Niño-like effects across the Atlantic during La Niña years; for instance, the 2007 and 2021 zonal wind maps looks like those of +ENSO years, and their late seasons were dead. For the tropics, an Atlantic Niña means a northward ITCZ, which means a greater chance of storms developing in the Caribbean Sea and a more active Atlantic Hurricane Season overall. Furthermore, the ITCZ seems to be more northern than average on the precipitation anomaly map, which further supports the Atlantic Niña.
  • The +AMO: The Eastern United States has been most able to escape major drought because of the persistent +AMO. Throughout the past three decades, SSTAs in the Atlantic Ocean have been higher than global SSTAs, and that is expected to continue into September. In terms of the tropics, a +AMO means a more active Atlantic Hurricane Season.
  • The +AMM: There is a certain area where SSTAs are most correlated with Atlantic ACE: the AMM horseshoe, which extends from the Canary Islands to the MDR. The NMME shows a +AMM throughout ASO, which is further supported by an Atlantic Niña. A +AMM brings the ITCZ farther north, supporting more hurricane activity in the Atlantic.
  • The +WAM: The WAM is projected to be very strong. Strong WAMs have two major consequences: above-average rainfall over the Sahel and above-average Atlantic Hurricane Seasons. However, with such as strong WAM, Cape Verde activity might be hindered. The seasons with the heaviest MDR activity (such as 2017) often have weaker WAMs than seasons based in the Western Atlantic (such as 2020).

Finally, while the CFSv2 might be showing ENSO-neutral conditions for this winter, the NMME ensemble still shows definite -ENSO conditions for this winter:

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#685 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 07, 2022 12:55 pm

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#686 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 07, 2022 1:15 pm

More takes from NMME and this concerns me where I am sitting.

 https://twitter.com/cyclonicwx/status/1523001095450025985


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#687 Postby SFLcane » Sat May 07, 2022 1:21 pm

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#688 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat May 07, 2022 1:33 pm

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#689 Postby SFLcane » Sat May 07, 2022 1:34 pm

This “ could “ be a problem.

Just like it showed last year :P

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#690 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Sat May 07, 2022 1:36 pm


You can pick out a northward-displaced TUTT on there if you look closely.
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#691 Postby Stormybajan » Sat May 07, 2022 1:38 pm


Thats a seriously soaked signal there for October :double: . Lets hope this forecast changes overtime..so many signals for a busy MDR and caribbean this hurricane season
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#692 Postby SFLcane » Sat May 07, 2022 1:42 pm

“ BUT” The orientation of that ridge on the NMME definitely looks interesting for the east coast if it verifies.
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#693 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat May 07, 2022 2:20 pm

Sounds like Adrian is hinting a some close call OTS tracks :wink:
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#694 Postby skyline385 » Sat May 07, 2022 2:25 pm

Very true for this thread as well, one bullish model and everyone's here lol

 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1523016777856217089




The opposite as well in a few months

 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1523027380708810752


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#695 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat May 07, 2022 3:34 pm

 https://twitter.com/Nichola76551479/status/1523037407943090176




But just imagine if the 2013 comparisons never even get a chance to materialize in the first place with the persistent -ENSO :D
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#696 Postby Iceresistance » Sat May 07, 2022 3:38 pm

WxTwitter can't decide on what 2022 is going to do in the Atlantic . . . :lol:
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#697 Postby SFLcane » Sat May 07, 2022 4:11 pm

DorkyMcDorkface wrote:

You can pick out a northward-displaced TUTT on there if you look closely.


No.

 https://twitter.com/cyclonicwx/status/1523009181355237377


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#698 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Sat May 07, 2022 4:21 pm

SFLcane wrote:
DorkyMcDorkface wrote:

You can pick out a northward-displaced TUTT on there if you look closely.


No.

https://twitter.com/cyclonicwx/status/1523009181355237377?s=21&t=dz4bJQX9HIJlAtdKUAu9lA

Huh? That tweet is highlighting the same thing I took note of lol
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#699 Postby SFLcane » Sat May 07, 2022 5:11 pm

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#700 Postby SFLcane » Sat May 07, 2022 5:13 pm

That's basically a summary of the last 10 years (minus the inactive years). There's actually a general minimum on the track towards S FL.
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