2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1041 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:20 pm

The latest GFS run looks fun for sure :lol:
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1042 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:32 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:The latest GFS run looks fun for sure :lol:


Looks like it's mainly picking up on more favorable conditions entering the basin soon. As usual, it should be most favorable in the western part first.
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#1043 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:37 pm

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1044 Postby lsuhurricane » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:37 pm

GFS Ensembles are crazy bullish as well in the 8-10 day mark. Won’t have to wait long to see if the West Caribbean is favored over the EPaC
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1045 Postby Teban54 » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:59 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:The latest GFS run looks fun for sure :lol:

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This is most likely overblown, but I've always been concerned that anything entering the Gulf this year has the potential to go places. Among the pre-Bonnie ensemble runs and a handful active EPS ensemble runs for July and August, almost all tracks that somehow ended up in Gulf intensified to hurricanes and even majors.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1046 Postby hurricane2025 » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:03 pm

I mean sooner or later it’s going to crank, it’s august so gfs could be on to something .
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1047 Postby Blown Away » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:09 pm

Teban54 wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:The latest GFS run looks fun for sure :lol:

https://i.postimg.cc/pXg5FrKT/gfs-mslp-pcpn-atl-fh144-384.gif
This is most likely overblown, but I've always been concerned that anything entering the Gulf this year has the potential to go places. Among the pre-Bonnie ensemble runs and a handful active EPS ensemble runs for July and August, almost all tracks that somehow ended up in Gulf intensified to hurricanes and even majors.


Wow, TS to maybe Cat 4/5 in 72 hours. That’s impressive!
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1048 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:13 pm

Happy hour GFS doing happy hour GFS things :lol:
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1049 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:26 pm

First run, long range. Leave the confetti stored. Let the runs come plus other models joining.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1050 Postby Blown Away » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:30 pm

Teban54 wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:The latest GFS run looks fun for sure :lol:

https://i.postimg.cc/pXg5FrKT/gfs-mslp-pcpn-atl-fh144-384.gif
This is most likely overblown, but I've always been concerned that anything entering the Gulf this year has the potential to go places. Among the pre-Bonnie ensemble runs and a handful active EPS ensemble runs for July and August, almost all tracks that somehow ended up in Gulf intensified to hurricanes and even majors.


Wow, TS to maybe Cat 4/5 in 72 hours. That’s impressive!
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1051 Postby Blown Away » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:34 pm

:D
cycloneye wrote:First run, long range. Leave the confetti stored. Let the runs come plus other models joining.


Natives are getting restless, 18z GFS came through in the clutch! :D
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1052 Postby SFLcane » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:51 pm

Your typical gfs/Gefs Ba, ba, ba, bias.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1053 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:37 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:Happy hour GFS doing happy hour GFS things :lol:


But what if...just what if...this is the moment that the GFS actually hits the jackpot? Like throwing darts constantly (as it did the past many months) and finally hitting the bullseye? :D
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1054 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:53 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:
ElectricStorm wrote:Happy hour GFS doing happy hour GFS things :lol:


But what if...just what if...this is the moment that the GFS actually hits the jackpot? Like throwing darts constantly (as it did the past many months) and finally hitting the bullseye? :D


GFS has dueling hurricanes in the EPAC and ATL, that doesn't look likely. Plus it's in the 300+ hour range which is highly susceptible to disappearing the next run. If we can't trust them 5 days out clearly not 10 or 15 :lol:.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1055 Postby Clearcloudz » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:13 pm

18Z GEFS some very strong members. This could be very wrong given the GFS bias.

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Compare that to the 12Z EURO ensembles and huge difference.

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1056 Postby MGC » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:05 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:Happy hour GFS doing happy hour GFS things :lol:


Eventually the GFS will get one right.......MGC
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1057 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:31 am

Really slow on the models now, but one thing catching my eye in the long-range is this tropical wave which the ECMWF moves through the Bahamas while increasing the vorticity while the GFS recurves it and develops off the Carolinas (240+ hours not shown). There’s a lot of dry air around and we are probably a few weeks early for development of Cape Verde waves but something to at least watch:

It is best to see this wave on the TT relative humidity charts from 168-240 hours:

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Euro 850mb vorticity
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1058 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:46 am

gatorcane wrote:Really slow on the models now, but one thing catching my eye in the long-range is this tropical wave which the ECMWF moves through the Bahamas while increasing the vorticity while the GFS recurves it and develops off the Carolinas (240+ hours not shown). There’s a lot of dry air around and we are probably a few weeks early for development of Cape Verde waves but something to at least watch:

It is best to see this wave on the TT relative humidity charts from 168-240 hours:

https://i.postimg.cc/B6VzjCLm/ecmwf-mid-RH-watl-fh168-240.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/LsrCR8rW/gfs-mid-RH-watl-fh168-240.gif

Euro 850mb vorticity
https://i.postimg.cc/LXxJLJ2C/ecmwf-z850-vort-watl-fh168-240.gif


It also caught my eyes this morning, it is on its long range forecast but for at least 5 runs in a row it shows this TW to approach the Lesser Antilles next weekend and track north of the Caribbean where it could have the best UL environment for development. Very little support for development from the EPS, for now.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1059 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:04 am

NDG wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Really slow on the models now, but one thing catching my eye in the long-range is this tropical wave which the ECMWF moves through the Bahamas while increasing the vorticity while the GFS recurves it and develops off the Carolinas (240+ hours not shown). There’s a lot of dry air around and we are probably a few weeks early for development of Cape Verde waves but something to at least watch:

It is best to see this wave on the TT relative humidity charts from 168-240 hours:

https://i.postimg.cc/B6VzjCLm/ecmwf-mid-RH-watl-fh168-240.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/LsrCR8rW/gfs-mid-RH-watl-fh168-240.gif

Euro 850mb vorticity
https://i.postimg.cc/LXxJLJ2C/ecmwf-z850-vort-watl-fh168-240.gif


It also caught my eyes this morning, it is on its long range forecast but for at least 5 runs in a row it shows this TW to approach the Lesser Antilles next weekend and track north of the Caribbean where it could have the best UL environment for development. Very little support for development from the EPS, for now.


See it here. 2022 Tropical Waves
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1060 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:45 am

cycloneye wrote:
NDG wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Really slow on the models now, but one thing catching my eye in the long-range is this tropical wave which the ECMWF moves through the Bahamas while increasing the vorticity while the GFS recurves it and develops off the Carolinas (240+ hours not shown). There’s a lot of dry air around and we are probably a few weeks early for development of Cape Verde waves but something to at least watch:

It is best to see this wave on the TT relative humidity charts from 168-240 hours:

https://i.postimg.cc/B6VzjCLm/ecmwf-mid-RH-watl-fh168-240.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/LsrCR8rW/gfs-mid-RH-watl-fh168-240.gif

Euro 850mb vorticity
https://i.postimg.cc/LXxJLJ2C/ecmwf-z850-vort-watl-fh168-240.gif


It also caught my eyes this morning, it is on its long range forecast but for at least 5 runs in a row it shows this TW to approach the Lesser Antilles next weekend and track north of the Caribbean where it could have the best UL environment for development. Very little support for development from the EPS, for now.


See it here. 2022 Tropical Waves


Yep, that's it. The same Euro shows it struggling with mid level dry air as it tracks across the Atlantic over the next 3-4 days but lighting up as it approaches and tracks across the northern Lesser Antilles later in the week.

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