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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#41 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:54 am

jlauderdal wrote:
tolakram wrote:0Z Euro showing a really unfavorable upper air environment, lots of shear. Current map shows how shear looks at the moment, and it's pretty rough.

https://i.imgur.com/UtGKiGe.png

https://i.imgur.com/76tcqCz.png


meanwhile, development chances keep increasing, nhc likes it 30/70


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Yes, decent GFS W shift in long range, there is the sudden stop near Bahamas then yanked NE. Tells me there is a very fine line between recurve and going W into Bahamas & CONUS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#42 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:56 am

jlauderdal wrote:
tolakram wrote:0Z Euro showing a really unfavorable upper air environment, lots of shear. Current map shows how shear looks at the moment, and it's pretty rough.

https://i.imgur.com/UtGKiGe.png

https://i.imgur.com/76tcqCz.png


meanwhile, development chances keep increasing, nhc likes it 30/70


They have the FSU super ensembles which are almost always superior to what we can see. Dorian and Irma both went through the models stay weak phase. Always instructive to look at the old model threads, and one of the reasons I post lots of images and, selfishly, what I'm thinking at the moment. So far imgur (free account) has kept all my old images.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#43 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:00 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#44 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:00 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#45 Postby blp » Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:01 am

The Ukie seems to have it firmly entrenched under the ridge as well. Not good.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#46 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:05 am

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Subtle W guidance shift happening today.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#47 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:31 am

06z GFS showed very weak steering when it started to bottom out over the Bahamas.

00z Euro because it had it much weaker had it drifting west near SFL.

Looks like there's potential for a US landfall regardless of intensity.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#48 Postby skyline385 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:10 am

12Z early track guidance with intensities, HMON has it at 50 knots so hurricane models seem to be picking up on it

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#49 Postby Spacecoast » Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:36 am

06z GEFS:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#50 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:43 am

Kingarabian wrote:06z GFS showed very weak steering when it started to bottom out over the Bahamas.

00z Euro because it had it much weaker had it drifting west near SFL.

Looks like there's potential for a US landfall regardless of intensity.


12z GFS initialized SW of 06z. Let’s see if that makes any difference.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#51 Postby Fancy1001 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:52 am

Blown Away wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:06z GFS showed very weak steering when it started to bottom out over the Bahamas.

00z Euro because it had it much weaker had it drifting west near SFL.

Looks like there's potential for a US landfall regardless of intensity.


12z GFS initialized SW of 06z. Let’s see if that makes any difference.

Did you mean the Icon
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#52 Postby Fancy1001 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:53 am

Blown Away wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:06z GFS showed very weak steering when it started to bottom out over the Bahamas.

00z Euro because it had it much weaker had it drifting west near SFL.

Looks like there's potential for a US landfall regardless of intensity.


12z GFS initialized SW of 06z. Let’s see if that makes any difference.

nevemind, for some reason i thought your post was at 10:43
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#53 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:53 am

Fancy1001 wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:06z GFS showed very weak steering when it started to bottom out over the Bahamas.

00z Euro because it had it much weaker had it drifting west near SFL.

Looks like there's potential for a US landfall regardless of intensity.


12z GFS initialized SW of 06z. Let’s see if that makes any difference.

Did you mean the Icon

The GFS did initiate SW compared to 6z.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#54 Postby Fancy1001 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:56 am

Iceresistance wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
12z GFS initialized SW of 06z. Let’s see if that makes any difference.

Did you mean the Icon

The GFS did initiate SW compared to 6z.

Yeah, I was confused because I misread the post time.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#55 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:59 am

Don't you even dare ICON . . .
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#56 Postby skyline385 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:00 am

Well this 12Z ICON run is going to get people talking, 953mb at 180 hrs

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#57 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:01 am

what does ICON have at 500mb level?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#58 Postby aspen » Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:07 am

12z GFS doesn’t have a good convective initialization. It shows much more wispy convection and not the blob over the developing LLC.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#59 Postby SohCahToa » Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:12 am

skyline385 wrote:Well this 12Z ICON run is going to get people talking, 953mb at 180 hrs

https://s1.gifyu.com/images/icon_mslp_pcpn_watl_fh120-180.gif


Is that a left turn I see at the end of that run?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#60 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:14 am

SohCahToa wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Well this 12Z ICON run is going to get people talking, 953mb at 180 hrs

https://s1.gifyu.com/images/icon_mslp_pcpn_watl_fh120-180.gif


Is that a left turn I see at the end of that run?

Decent SW dip on the ICON to finish the run.

12Z GFS through hour 120 is further SW compared to its previous runs. Will have track implications probably.
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