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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#261 Postby LarryWx » Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:53 pm

cycloneye wrote:
AL, 91, 2022083018, , BEST, 0, 148N, 491W, 30, 1007


So, the actual 18Z position of 14.8N, 49.1W, compares to these two points in the 12Z UKMET, which are for both 6 hours earlier and 6 hours later:

1200UTC 30.08.2022 0 14.8N 48.3W 1009 25
0000UTC 31.08.2022 12 15.6N 49.4W 1009 24


Using interpolation, the actual 18Z position is 0.4 S and 0.25 W of the 12Z UKMET 18Z forecast point, which is ~45 miles SSW of the 12Z UKMET estimated position.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#262 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:50 pm

LarryWx wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
AL, 91, 2022083018, , BEST, 0, 148N, 491W, 30, 1007


So, the actual 18Z position of 14.8N, 49.1W, compares to these two points in the 12Z UKMET, which are for both 6 hours earlier and 6 hours later:

1200UTC 30.08.2022 0 14.8N 48.3W 1009 25
0000UTC 31.08.2022 12 15.6N 49.4W 1009 24

Using interpolation, the actual 18Z position is 0.4 S and 0.25 W of the 12Z UKMET 18Z forecast point, which is ~45 miles SSW of the 12Z UKMET estimated position.


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NHC indicates a little better organized from 25 to 30.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#263 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:52 pm

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Last visible of the day.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#264 Postby FireRat » Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:02 pm

Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/zVfQ9rd.gif
Last visible of the day.


Looks like it's trying to become a TD, guess we'll see if it keeps getting better organized through tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#265 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:22 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#266 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:52 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#267 Postby SconnieCane » Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:57 pm

:uarrow: Not even a TD and giving itself upwelling problems. This season... :roll:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#268 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:58 pm

We had the North Blob
We had the South Blog...
May I now introduce...the East Blob that seems to be the one that is in charge today
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#269 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:06 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:We had the North Blob
We had the South Blog...
May I now introduce...the East Blob that seems to be the one that is in charge today


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#270 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:08 pm

Blown Away wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:We had the North Blob
We had the South Blog...
May I now introduce...the East Blob that seems to be the one that is in charge today


https://i.imgur.com/PYWGWd0.gif



reminds me of 2013 a little.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#271 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:25 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#272 Postby NXStumpy_Robothing » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:37 pm


As Hazelton rightfully points out in the replies, I highly doubt any serious amount of upwelling has occurred; what we're likely seeing is a pulse down of convection on the north side as the more favorable dynamics align themselves further south and east (that southward trend in particular is quite interesting given model outputs that have been expecting it to move further north by now...).

Anyway, probably the best 91L has looked, and relatively close to becoming a TC given the well-defined circulation at the surface and the numerous attempts to consolidate and pinch off. Hopefully no issues with low-level recon tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#273 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:50 pm

Blown Away wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:We had the North Blob
We had the South Blog...
May I now introduce...the East Blob that seems to be the one that is in charge today


https://i.imgur.com/PYWGWd0.gif


This may be where the new center gets going, it's in the middle of the triangle formed by the other 3 blobs from this morning.

Recon is in there right now, should be interesting.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#274 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:53 pm

It is quite healthy considering that it is Dmin right now Looking at IR only, one might suspect DMAX.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#275 Postby FireRat » Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:08 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:It is quite healthy considering that it is Dmin right now Looking at IR only, one might suspect DMAX.


It sure is! If this continues through tomorrow AM we might end up having this named a TD or even TS.

August is lucky to have 31 days :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#276 Postby sunnyday » Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:17 pm

As things look now, is there much chance that 91L won’t recurve? How comfortable can S Fl feel about not having a landfall? Thank you.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#277 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:23 pm

sunnyday wrote:As things look now, is there much chance that 91L won’t recurve? How comfortable can S Fl feel about not having a landfall? Thank you.


When the models show a recurve with such uniformity this far out, it is going out to sea. A direct hit never verifies that far out. It is common for storms to miss. The shape of the SE coastline proves the point. Just my opinion though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#278 Postby Nimbus » Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:52 pm

Shear looks like it is finally letting up and the convection is getting back over the new center.
Should be recon worthy by tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#279 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:23 pm

91L probably looks better now on satellite than it ever has. (may not be saying much, but at least it's consolidating into one area)

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#280 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:31 pm

Looks like this burst of convection has pulled the center a bit SE to where the convection is firing. Will be interesting to see where the models initialize this on the next runs. They will also have aircraft data as well.
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