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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#481 Postby wxman57 » Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:02 pm

msbee wrote:Absolutely a non event here on St Maarten


You might get a bit of rain on the back side with that one feeder band tomorrow. No wind impact south of the track, though.

Earl's center appears to be exposed west of the convection again.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#482 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:06 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:Welp, seems somewhat likely that the speculations that this system would just dissipate (was it the Euro that thought that would happen?) are going to have a good chance of busting :D


Euro and UKMET both showed little to no development, both busted
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#483 Postby crownweather » Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:57 pm



You mean he no longer is expecting a Carol Part 2 like he was yesterday? :roll:
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#484 Postby msbee » Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:09 pm

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msbee wrote:Absolutely a non event here on St Maarten


You might get a bit of rain on the back side with that one feeder band tomorrow. No wind impact south of the track, though.

Earl's center appears to be exposed west of the convection again.

Yes, we are expecting that. MeteoFrance has us on orange alert for possible heavy thunderstorms.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#485 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:14 pm

crownweather wrote:


You mean he no longer is expecting a Carol Part 2 like he was yesterday? :roll:


Different years, different setups.

Earl appears to be a safe recurve away from land for now unless it refuses to take the turn to the NE
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#486 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:40 pm

AL, 06, 2022090400, , BEST, 0, 194N, 639W, 45, 999, TS


https://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/btk/bal062022.dat
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#487 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:15 pm

Earl has a pretty good ceiling if the models are right about it having a favorable interaction with a trough during its recurve. Look at that large swath of 29.5C to event 30C SSTs above 20N in its path (NHC 5-day forecast cone traced over the SST plot from Tropical Tidbits). It'll also have several more days over >27C SSTs before it'll have to worry about extratropical transition. If all goes well for Earl - something that isn't guaranteed in 2022 - then we could see a major out of this, maybe even something as strong as a Cat 4. I've been thinking this could be an east-shifted version of Humberto '19, and so far that seems to be a very probable solution.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#488 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:43 pm

That's a huge blowup of convection near the center going off now.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#489 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:48 pm

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#490 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:50 pm

Center looks about here based on radar motion.

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#491 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:05 pm

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#492 Postby Landy » Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:33 pm

Hammy wrote:Center looks about here based on radar motion.

https://i.imgur.com/OdnlAoh.png


It looks like it's been taking a WSW jog?
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#493 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:30 am

Consistent, deep convection over Earl right now, it's likely decoupled, but it could do a center reformation further east.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#494 Postby ChrisH-UK » Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:57 am

Heres Earl as of 08:30. GOES-16 Snow/Ice + Clean IR 2 Mesoscale 2hr loop, source https://col.st/hppFq



This was the last ASCAT pass. Source - https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/atmo ... t/uhr.html

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#495 Postby Hammy » Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:33 am

https://moe.met.fsu.edu/~mnissenbaum/RadarArchive/TJUA/loop.html Live radar from San Juan, seems like the center has moved northeast slightly over the last 8 hours, likely being tugged closer to the convection by that earlier burst

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#496 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:01 am

Recon took off about 2 hours ago, but there hasn’t been any communications since then. Is Tropical Tidbits not loading recon data, or are we not getting any communication whatsoever from this flight, or did they turn back?
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#497 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:28 am

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#498 Postby hipshot » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:45 am

tolakram wrote:saved loop
https://i.imgur.com/9BAfeHl.gif


That surely makes it look like it took a jog toward the east right near the end of that loop or...
it was an optical illusion. :double:
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#499 Postby ChrisH-UK » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:48 am

Now that the shear is relaxing looks like Earl is taking full advantage of it.

GOES-16 Geo Colour + IR - https://col.st/H5EQu

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#500 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:03 am

AL, 06, 2022090412, , BEST, 0, 195N, 644W, 45, 998, TS


https://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/btk/bal062022.dat
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