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#21 Postby wx247 » Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:03 pm

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GalvestonDuck wrote:Those who did probably agree with our nation's motto. However, he swore the judicial oath, probably with his hand on the Bible, and he didn't honor that oath.

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Alabama, and obey the laws thereof; that I am not disqualified from holding the office of __________; that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter. So help me God."

AMEN A MILLION TIMES DUCK!!! I too admire his stance, but there has to be a line drawn and if he was allowed to cross it, well, we all know what can of worms that would open. I dont believe that it was an easy decision for them to make but they had an obligation too.


This is exactly the point! Just imagine an opposite situation occuring. If there was a court order to remove the symbol of Wiccan religion out of the Supreme Court and they defied a court order... everyone would be lining up to get the chance to "unseat" him. The decision made today was not a religious one. The decisions before this day, however, were. I admire the former justice for his stance, but the law is the law.
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#22 Postby streetsoldier » Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:23 pm

Unhappy as this is, it gives the former judge a "green light" to enter politics...and I have little doubt that we will hear from him in either Congress or the Senate in days to come.
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#23 Postby Guest » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:18 pm

I guess I disagree with most people here. This nation was founded by Christian men with Christian values. As our pledge goes, "One nation, under God". The refusal to display The Ten Commandments is pure blasphemy! I admire Judge Moore for standing up for his religion. Why did our ancestors come to this new land of America? For freedom of religion. I'm sure our Forefathers are rolling over in their graves. Skywatch, I agree, this is a sad day in America. The panel that ordered Judge Moore down may have the power to do so today, but just wait until the tables are turned on them, on Judgment Day.
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#24 Postby sunnyday » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:24 pm

One day, when he stands before God, he will receive his reward for putting God first! Too bad we all live in a largely secular world.
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#25 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:29 pm

I'm still in shock that they removed him. he took a stance and got canned for it. Way to go America.,
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#26 Postby stormy » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:06 pm

mrschad wrote:I guess I disagree with most people here. This nation was founded by Christian men with Christian values. As our pledge goes, "One nation, under God". The refusal to display The Ten Commandments is pure blasphemy! I admire Judge Moore for standing up for his religion. Why did our ancestors come to this new land of America? For freedom of religion. I'm sure our Forefathers are rolling over in their graves. Skywatch, I agree, this is a sad day in America. The panel that ordered Judge Moore down may have the power to do so today, but just wait until the tables are turned on them, on Judgment Day.


bless u Mrschad i agree
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#27 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:16 pm

mrschad wrote:I guess I disagree with most people here. This nation was founded by Christian men with Christian values. As our pledge goes, "One nation, under God". The refusal to display The Ten Commandments is pure blasphemy! I admire Judge Moore for standing up for his religion. Why did our ancestors come to this new land of America? For freedom of religion. I'm sure our Forefathers are rolling over in their graves. Skywatch, I agree, this is a sad day in America. The panel that ordered Judge Moore down may have the power to do so today, but just wait until the tables are turned on them, on Judgment Day.


AMEN sista!! AMEN!!
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#28 Postby opera ghost » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:50 pm

sunnyday wrote:One day, when he stands before God, he will receive his reward for putting God first! Too bad we all live in a largely secular world.


Funny- that's how the terrorists feel about killing perfectly good Americans.

It's still illegal. Ignoring the dictates of the higher court was a choice he made- fully knowing and understanding that he would, and should be removed from his position. If our judges cannot obey the laws of a higher court- who are they to judge the criminal for not obeying thier court?
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#29 Postby j » Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:28 am

This really po's me. No longer are Judges required to follow the Constitution. It's sickening. There is no end in sight to the Liberal agenda pushing, and law breaking Judges rulings.

Already, several Federal Judges are on record across the country stating that they have no intention of standing by the Partial Birth Abortion act signed sealed and delivered By Pres. Bush.

What is happening?????????
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#30 Postby wx247 » Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:43 am

mrschad wrote:I guess I disagree with most people here. This nation was founded by Christian men with Christian values. As our pledge goes, "One nation, under God". The refusal to display The Ten Commandments is pure blasphemy! I admire Judge Moore for standing up for his religion. Why did our ancestors come to this new land of America? For freedom of religion. I'm sure our Forefathers are rolling over in their graves. Skywatch, I agree, this is a sad day in America. The panel that ordered Judge Moore down may have the power to do so today, but just wait until the tables are turned on them, on Judgment Day.


I respectfully disagree mrschad and here is why. Yesterday wasn't a sad day in America. The day they ruled him to take the commandments out was. Former Justice Moore was removed from the bench NOT directly because he wouldn't remove the Ten Commandments, but because he was in violation of a court order!! I commend him for taking a stand and doing what he believes in but I believe that it is irrelevant to insinuate that the judicial panel yesterday will burn in hell because they ruled that he was violation of the law of the courts. They did NOT rule yesterday whether keeping the Ten Commandments was right or wrong. I think that is the important distinction that needs to be made.

In a post I made yesterday I stated that that day isn't the sad day. The day they ordered the Commandments out of the Court was the truly sad day.

I also think that opera ghost has a point there, which is what I was trying to make in my post yesterday. There has to be a punishment for breaking the laws and orders made by our Congress and the impending interpretation by the courts or else there would be chaos in this country.
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#31 Postby stormchazer » Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:09 am

wx247 wrote:
mrschad wrote:I guess I disagree with most people here. This nation was founded by Christian men with Christian values. As our pledge goes, "One nation, under God". The refusal to display The Ten Commandments is pure blasphemy! I admire Judge Moore for standing up for his religion. Why did our ancestors come to this new land of America? For freedom of religion. I'm sure our Forefathers are rolling over in their graves. Skywatch, I agree, this is a sad day in America. The panel that ordered Judge Moore down may have the power to do so today, but just wait until the tables are turned on them, on Judgment Day.


I respectfully disagree mrschad and here is why. Yesterday wasn't a sad day in America. The day they ruled him to take the commandments out was. Former Justice Moore was removed from the bench NOT directly because he wouldn't remove the Ten Commandments, but because he was in violation of a court order!! I commend him for taking a stand and doing what he believes in but I believe that it is irrelevant to insinuate that the judicial panel yesterday will burn in hell because they ruled that he was violation of the law of the courts. They did NOT rule yesterday whether keeping the Ten Commandments was right or wrong. I think that is the important distinction that needs to be made.

In a post I made yesterday I stated that that day isn't the sad day. The day they ordered the Commandments out of the Court was the truly sad day.

I also think that opera ghost has a point there, which is what I was trying to make in my post yesterday. There has to be a punishment for breaking the laws and orders made by our Congress and the impending interpretation by the courts or else there would be chaos in this country.


I could not agree more. He is to be commended for his stand and now he must pay for not doing his job.
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#32 Postby GalvestonDuck » Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:16 am

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wx247 wrote:
mrschad wrote:I guess I disagree with most people here. This nation was founded by Christian men with Christian values. As our pledge goes, "One nation, under God". The refusal to display The Ten Commandments is pure blasphemy! I admire Judge Moore for standing up for his religion. Why did our ancestors come to this new land of America? For freedom of religion. I'm sure our Forefathers are rolling over in their graves. Skywatch, I agree, this is a sad day in America. The panel that ordered Judge Moore down may have the power to do so today, but just wait until the tables are turned on them, on Judgment Day.


I respectfully disagree mrschad and here is why. Yesterday wasn't a sad day in America. The day they ruled him to take the commandments out was. Former Justice Moore was removed from the bench NOT directly because he wouldn't remove the Ten Commandments, but because he was in violation of a court order!! I commend him for taking a stand and doing what he believes in but I believe that it is irrelevant to insinuate that the judicial panel yesterday will burn in hell because they ruled that he was violation of the law of the courts. They did NOT rule yesterday whether keeping the Ten Commandments was right or wrong. I think that is the important distinction that needs to be made.

In a post I made yesterday I stated that that day isn't the sad day. The day they ordered the Commandments out of the Court was the truly sad day.

I also think that opera ghost has a point there, which is what I was trying to make in my post yesterday. There has to be a punishment for breaking the laws and orders made by our Congress and the impending interpretation by the courts or else there would be chaos in this country.


I could not agree more. He is to be commended for his stand and now he must pay for not doing his job.


I agree also. That's what I was trying to say yesterday. It's not because he wouldn't remove the Commandments. It's because he didn't follow the order of a higher court. If what J mentioned happens and some judges ignore the Partial Birth Abortion ban, won't we want them to answer for their actions also?
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#33 Postby Stephanie » Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:32 am

If he ignores the law and is not punished accordingly, then we open ourselves up to becoming a lawless society. If people are then arrested for a crime, couldn't they then bring a lwasuit saying that "so and so didn't follow the law and wasn't punished, why am I being singled out?" We start losing the respect of the law we start to lose our society as we know it.
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#34 Postby JCT777 » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:11 am

Excellent point, Garrett. But I still admire him for taking a stand based on his beliefs.
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#35 Postby opera ghost » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:19 am

j wrote:This really po's me. No longer are Judges required to follow the Constitution. It's sickening. There is no end in sight to the Liberal agenda pushing, and law breaking Judges rulings.

Already, several Federal Judges are on record across the country stating that they have no intention of standing by the Partial Birth Abortion act signed sealed and delivered By Pres. Bush.

What is happening?????????


What is happening? The checks and balances of the American government as outlaid by the constitution is happening. The judicial branch has the right and responsibility to check and balance the laws passed by the other 2/3rds for constitutionality. The judges dealing with the partial birth issue are doing so in the correct manner even if it isn't a mannner that people for the bill like. I suspect that the issue will go to the supreme court when all is said and done- but they're not flagrantly disobeying the law handed to them by the higher court- they're ruleing on it and moving it along in the judicial process.

THIS guy followed the correct procedures for getting a court order overturned- lost, and still refused to abide by the court. Comparing it to the partial birth is like comparing apples and cows. They're not even both fruit... muchless the same thing.

Judges are required to follow the constitution. They're also required to help define the constitutionality of laws and uphold them... both of which are being done.
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#36 Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:31 am

Former Justice Moore was removed from the bench NOT directly because he wouldn't remove the Ten Commandments, but because he was in violation of a court order!!


Well that panel had a choice. They chose to follow a court order, whereas Justice Moore chose to follow God.

I would like to point out one more thing. Justice Moore went against that court order to stand up for freedom of religion, which IS A RIGHT given to us by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. If anyone is guilty of not upholding to their position, it is the State Supreme Court who chose to have The Ten Commandments removed, for they chose to go against the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. This panel that voted to have Justice Moore step down went along with the State Supreme Court, therefore making them just as guilty of not upholding our Constitution.
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#37 Postby opera ghost » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:38 am

mrschad wrote:
Former Justice Moore was removed from the bench NOT directly because he wouldn't remove the Ten Commandments, but because he was in violation of a court order!!


Well that panel had a choice. They chose to follow a court order, whereas Justice Moore chose to follow God.

I would like to point out one more thing. Justice Moore went against that court order to stand up for freedom of religion, which IS A RIGHT given to us by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. If anyone is guilty of not upholding to their position, it is the State Supreme Court who chose to have The Ten Commandments removed, for they chose to go against the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. This panel that voted to have Justice Moore step down went along with the State Supreme Court, therefore making them just as guilty of not upholding our Constitution.


And thank god for that! If every court were given the right to always consult thier gods before enforcing the law... it would be a true shame. Theocracy would not be far behind... and I would be long gone- at that point there would be no freedom of religion to anyone but the rulemakers.
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#38 Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:48 am

Simply displaying the Ten Commandments has nothing to do with "consulting their God's before enforcing law". Take it for what it is, a symbol of Christianity. This ruling, like I have already said, denies freedom of religion. End of story.
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#39 Postby wx247 » Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:00 pm

mrschad wrote:
Former Justice Moore was removed from the bench NOT directly because he wouldn't remove the Ten Commandments, but because he was in violation of a court order!!


Well that panel had a choice. They chose to follow a court order, whereas Justice Moore chose to follow God.

I would like to point out one more thing. Justice Moore went against that court order to stand up for freedom of religion, which IS A RIGHT given to us by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. If anyone is guilty of not upholding to their position, it is the State Supreme Court who chose to have The Ten Commandments removed, for they chose to go against the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. This panel that voted to have Justice Moore step down went along with the State Supreme Court, therefore making them just as guilty of not upholding our Constitution.


I respectfully disagree, but we have bothed expressed our opinions so there really isn't more to discuss. We just look at it differently.
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#40 Postby stormchazer » Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:31 pm

wx247 wrote:
mrschad wrote:
Former Justice Moore was removed from the bench NOT directly because he wouldn't remove the Ten Commandments, but because he was in violation of a court order!!


Well that panel had a choice. They chose to follow a court order, whereas Justice Moore chose to follow God.

I would like to point out one more thing. Justice Moore went against that court order to stand up for freedom of religion, which IS A RIGHT given to us by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. If anyone is guilty of not upholding to their position, it is the State Supreme Court who chose to have The Ten Commandments removed, for they chose to go against the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. This panel that voted to have Justice Moore step down went along with the State Supreme Court, therefore making them just as guilty of not upholding our Constitution.


I respectfully disagree, but we have bothed expressed our opinions so there really isn't more to discuss. We just look at it differently.


Then follow the chain and appeal to the Supreme Court.
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