ATL: FIONA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#581 Postby Landy » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:44 pm

aspen wrote:When does the next recon flight take off? Fiona might finally have a better defined LLC by now, and we’ll need recon to confidently determine if Fiona has a mid-level eye or a dry slot.

About an hour and a half. Let's see how much progress this makes until then.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#582 Postby msbee » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:58 pm

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#583 Postby Pelicane » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:05 pm

It's taking a big gulp of dry air.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#584 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:07 pm

The NHC mentioned that a microwave pass from around 17z showed that the warm spot is probably the eye. The exact LLC is visible through the forming eye on visible.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#585 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:10 pm

NWS-San Juan radar is showing an eye.

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#586 Postby Landy » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:12 pm

aspen wrote:The NHC mentioned that a microwave pass from around 17z showed that the warm spot is probably the eye. The exact LLC is visible through the forming eye on visible.
https://i.imgur.com/yZnqvgK.jpg


Even more recent MW pass just released.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#587 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:13 pm

Saved loop. Keep in mind that from this distance it's the MLC we're looking at. Time stamp is EDT

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#588 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:16 pm

Forecasting a Hurricane over PR.

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#589 Postby Landy » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:16 pm

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#590 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:16 pm

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WTNT42 KNHC 172057
TCDAT2

Tropical Storm Fiona Discussion Number 14
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL072022
500 PM AST Sat Sep 17 2022

After going through a bit of a re-organization this morning,
Fiona's structure appears to be improving again. Visible satellite
images show an elongated band of deep convection wrapping around
the center from north to east to southwest, and WSR-88D Doppler
radar from San Juan, Puerto Rico, suggests that a better-defined
center of circulation has developed. A 1707 UTC AMSR-2 microwave
pass also shows that a mid-level eye feature may be developing.
The last Air Force Reserve reconnaissance mission from a few hours
ago found that the central pressure had fallen back down to 1002 mb,
but maximum winds still appeared to be around 50 kt. The next
reconnaissance mission is scheduled for this evening.

Fiona's motion today has been discontinuous due to the storm's
center re-formation, but the smoothed longer-term motion is now
west-northwestward, or 285/8 kt. This general motion is expected
to continue through tonight, with Fiona expected to turn
northwestward on Sunday as it begins to move around the western
periphery of the subtropical ridge. A turn toward the
north-northwest is expected by Monday night, followed by a
northward and north-northeastward acceleration over the western
Atlantic by Thursday. In general, the new NHC forecast is close to
the TVCN and HCCA consensus aids, in the middle of the guidance
envelope. This prediction is a little bit north of this morning's
forecast during the first 24 to 36 hours, mainly accounting for
Fiona's adjusted initial position. After 36 hours, the track
forecast is not too different from earlier.

Since the new track forecast has the center of Fiona reaching
Puerto Rico in about 24 hours, the window for strengthening is less
than it was earlier today. However, the NHC intensity forecast is
near the IVCN and HCCA consensus aids and suggests that Fiona will
be at or near hurricane intensity before moving across Puerto Rico
on Sunday. If the center does cross Puerto Rico, that could halt
intensification, or cause some slight weakening, but Fiona is
expected to go through a more significant strengthening phase once
it's over the western Atlantic. The forecast shows Fiona just
below major hurricane intensity by day 5, although it should be
mentioned that this prediction is slightly below the consensus aids.


Key Messages:

1. Hurricane conditions are expected across portions of Puerto
Rico on Sunday, and are possible across the U.S. Virgin Islands
tonight. Tropical storm conditions are now spreading westward
across the U.S. and British Virgin Islands and will spread
across Puerto Rico this evening and tonight. Tropical storm
conditions will reach the Dominican Republic by late Sunday.

2. Heavy rains from Fiona will spread west to the British and U.S.
Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico today, the Dominican Republic Sunday,
and the Turks and Caicos Monday night. These rainfall amounts are
expected to produce life-threatening flash floods and urban
flooding, along with mudslides in areas of higher terrain,
especially across portions of Puerto Rico and the Dominican
Republic.

3. Fiona is forecast to strengthen after moving away from Puerto
Rico and past the Dominican Republic on Monday, and interests in the
Turks and Caicos Islands and southeastern Bahamas should continue to
monitor forecasts for the storm.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 17/2100Z 16.7N 64.6W 50 KT 60 MPH
12H 18/0600Z 17.3N 65.5W 60 KT 70 MPH
24H 18/1800Z 18.1N 66.7W 65 KT 75 MPH...OVER PUERTO RICO
36H 19/0600Z 19.0N 68.0W 65 KT 75 MPH...OVER WATER
48H 19/1800Z 20.1N 69.0W 70 KT 80 MPH
60H 20/0600Z 21.4N 69.8W 75 KT 85 MPH
72H 20/1800Z 22.7N 70.5W 80 KT 90 MPH
96H 21/1800Z 25.4N 70.7W 90 KT 105 MPH
120H 22/1800Z 29.9N 68.8W 95 KT 110 MPH

$$
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#591 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:18 pm

LLC very evident now on vis sat loop.
Due south of St Croix, near 16.5N 64.7W

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#592 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:23 pm

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#593 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:50 pm

I've just looked at CMISS and there's a NOAA buoy (4206) reporting 1004 MB at sea level with not wind inside Fiona.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#594 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:04 pm

Ok guys and gals. I will shut down as the winds are starting to pick up here in PR and the power grid will go. Hopefully I will be back sooner than when Maria as I was 2 months without power and internet.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#595 Postby Pelicane » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:06 pm

Cloud tops continue to warm, perhaps due to dry air intrusions + DMIN. Radar shows the eye (may be mid-level as some has mentioned) is currently open on the southern side.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#596 Postby pgoss11 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:07 pm

cycloneye wrote:OK guys and gals. I will shut down as the winds are starting to pick up here in PR and the power grid will go. Hopefully I will be back sooner than when Maria as I was 2 months without power and internet.

Be safe Cycloneye. Sending you and your family positive thoughts and prayers.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#597 Postby AJC3 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:09 pm

Iceresistance wrote:I've just looked at CMISS and there's a NOAA buoy (4206) reporting 1004 MB at sea level with not wind inside Fiona.


Are you talking about buoy 42060? The last SLP ob from there was 29.76"/1007.7mb
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#598 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:19 pm

AJC3 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:I've just looked at CMISS and there's a NOAA buoy (4206) reporting 1004 MB at sea level with not wind inside Fiona.


Are you talking about buoy 42060? The last SLP ob from there was 29.76"/1007.7mb


I believe so, it's the one from the Caribbean Sea. It's now reporting 1005 MB (May not be reporting wind) far away from the CoC, I have a picture of the buoy location. (It's numbered 4206 on CIMSS)

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#599 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:31 pm

Latest video from Levi Cowan (Tropical Tidbits)

[youtube]https://youtu.be/5Tzk69SYf5c[/youtube]
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#600 Postby skyline385 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:32 pm

Not looking very impressive right now, except for the banding. Lets see what recon finds...
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